Re: 2-week-old Ariz. girl dies in dog attack


"td" <tinydancer@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:gffsl.12175$i9.4854@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

"Ruthless" <roothliss@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:49b1753f.716505734@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hey TD,

officers found the infant in the living room with bite wounds on her
head. The baby was pronounced dead at the scene.

The dog, a chow, was quarantined.

In 35 years of working with animals, I've known maybe 5 full-blooded
chows that weren't dangerous. Mix them with just about any other breed
and you end up with a great dog,

I couldn't agree more about chows. One of the reasons I disagree with
breed banning. Once all the pit bulls are out-lawed, the chow is a
perfect choice for the low-lives to pick up on as a replacement,
unfortunately.

I'm surprised the low-lifes aren't already stocking up on chows, frankly.
I think it's because they're too pretty. Pits make crappy guard-dogs.
They're genetically predisposed to adore humans. If you get one that's not
right in the first place, more willing to bite a human, and work your ass
off, you can end up with a dangerous dog, but it's still going to be
erratic as hell. You'd never know if your psychotic pit was going to eat
someone or try to crawl into their lap. Chows, though, are genetically
predisposed to distrust any human that they aren't bonded to, and they're
genetically predisposed to only bond to one human at a time. So they're a
lot more dangerous than pit bulls, and they make perfect killing guard
machines (which is what they were originally bred to do). But they don't
have that musular tuff look, and I'm guessing that's why the low-lifes
don't notice them.

The only thing I disagree with you on is a mix. As cute as some of those
puppies are, I personally just can't get past my aversion to a
*chow*/anything.

I don't even think about puppies. Working in shelters for so many years
makes me look at puppies and see piles of dead dogs. Every live puppy that
is carried into a shelter means at least one dead good dog. People are
always willing to adopt puppies but rarely willing to adopt adult dogs. So
the cuteness factor doesn't cross my mind.

What I've seen over the decades is that when you have a dog that's
half-chow/half-whatever-else, you have a dog that doesn't have the
psychotic distrust of strangers and does have the strong tendency to bond
very tightly. Chow mixes aren't particularly good guard dogs, but they
have an enormous love for their people, and they're very stable animals. A
bit of a bitch to groom though, with all that long thick double-coated
hair.

Just me, I guess. But I figure why get a 'chow/lab' when I could get a
'lab/golden' or 'lab/shepherd', ya know.

When you walk into a shelter, and the dog (not puppy) that speaks to your
heart is a +5-year-old 95-pound ball of matted fur that mostly looks like
a newfoundland but has a purple tongue... you're not going to want to
bother looking at the husky/lab or the golden/shepherd on each side of
him. When you take the puppy factor out of the decision, your options open
enormously, and at that point, a chow mix is a good critter to be looking
at. Because whatever genetic factor is in the chow breed that makes them
so dangerous simply isn't dominant. It's totally diluted by almost any
other breed. I've seen that over and over again. Like I said, in over
three decades of working with dogs, I've known maybe 5 full-blooded chows
that weren't dangerous. But in the same amount of time, the only chow
mixes I recall that were dangerous were one chow/pit mix and one
chow/jindo mix.

I'm happy that Chihuahuas are so little, because next to chows, they come
in second for me in the *nasty* dept. If they had more size to them, they
could really do some damage.

The worst bite I ever took (and I've been bitten by a lot of dogs,
especially in the early years when being bitten was seen as part of the
job and we didn't work very hard to avoid it) was from a chihuahua.
Breeders have done a lot to fix their temperments over the last few
decades, but they are truly nutsoid dogs.

Davi


I'm with you on the adult/adopt. Since my murphy died, we've only gotten adult adopts. My gracie was *listed* as a boxer/german shepherd mix. But anyone with half a brain can see she's a rottie mix. I'm sure they didn't say that because she'd have been harder to adopt from a high kill shelter that was sponsoring her. She's such a great dog, and so bonded to me. Where ever I am, you'll find her. If I go next door, to my daughters house, she sits in the window and watches the front door there, until I emerge and come back home. People always ask 'if she's *friendly*' prior to approaching me though. Something they seldom did with my happy-looking lab mix, murphy.

Now my merlin, catahoula leopard dog rescue/adult again, people are mostly curious about. On our road, he's referred to as 'that pretty dog'. ;-) He stands 27 inches to his shoulders, and it was his *goofy* expression that attracted me to him.

I'd like to find myself a scruffy little dog to join the crew, but most of them available around here are chihuahuas or mixes of chi's. Just don't like them. To me, they've always seemed like really big rats with really big, sharp teeth. And not *nice* rats either. More like those in that movie long ago, 'Rats'. From the book, Ratmans Notebooks, I think it was.


td


I had a boxer/ridgeback mix that I got from the pound. She was very hard to socialize but once I did she was a wonderful dog. She's been gone now for almost five years but I still miss the sweet mutt.

td if you're looking try http://petfinders.com but be aware some of the stories are so heartbreaking you might sob for a while. It's hard to believe some of the cruelties inflicted on animals, including rape! If you see a female named Haley she is identical to my boxer cross. Same mix too. I want her so badly but my yard isn't completely fenced.

J

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