Re: OctoMom told sperm donor "I had cancer"
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- Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:49:27 -0800 (PST)
On Feb 23, 1:13 pm, "Kris Baker" <parallelcoo...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What a liar! She told him she'd had cervical cancer, so could
not conceive. And he was so gullible, he didn't check anything
out (like what "reputable" doctor would assist a recent cancer
victim with in-vitro).
Please. Someone. Take these kids.
She's being offered FREE assistance for the kids, but is not
responding because they refuse to give her money.
Possible Octuplet Dad Gave Sperm Because He Was in Love With Suleman
Beaudoin Tells "GMA" He Wants to Help Octuplets Whether He's the Dad or Not
By CHRIS CUOMO, JONANN BRADY and RUSSELL GOLDMAN
Feb. 23, 2009-
Denis Beaudoin, the man who says he could be the biological father of Nadya
Suleman's octuplets, said he donated his sperm to her three times without
asking questions because he was young and in love.
Beaudoin said he thought it was "out of the ordinary" when she asked him to
donate. "But I cared about her so much. And I mean, we were, we were in
love. I mean, I loved Nadya very much," he told Chris Cuomo in an exclusive
interview with "Good Morning America."
Beaudoin said he and Suleman had a "serious" three-year relationship from
1997 to 1999 when he was in his early 20s.
Though he and Suleman never talked about marriage, Beaudoin said when he
donated the sperm he thought it would be part of "starting a family"
together at some point.
He called Nadya "a really great girl" and thought she would make a good
mother. His friends nicknamed her "Giggles" for her laugh.
"She really had a really infectious laugh. You know, just her laugh would,
it would make you crack up. It's kind of like she had a real high-pitch,
squeaky cartoon voice. And, you know, she was a lot of fun to be around.
Just her whole bubbly outward personality was really, really cool," Beaudoin
But now Beaudoin said he sees a very different woman, both in appearance and
demeanor, than the one he knew.
"She looks different, sounds different. You know, it's just not the Nadya I
remember," he said.
Nor did Suleman express a desire to have a lot of children, he said.
"You know, I could say this is something that's all new. The Nadya that I
knew, it never, it never came up to have such a huge family. It was just an
urge to have a child because she was not able to," Beaudoin said.
Beaudoin said that at the time she first approached him about donating
sperm, Suleman told him that she had ovarian cancer and was unable to
conceive without the help of a doctor.
Wants to Help If He's the Father or Not
Beaudoin said they had an amicable parting, but said he never heard anything
more about Suleman undergoing in vitro fertilization or trying to become
Beaudoin said he was "shocked [and] surprised" when he first learned that
Suleman had delivered octuplets on Jan. 23.
Suleman has denied that Beaudoin is the father, but he said his multiple
sperm donations are cause for a paternity test.
Beaudoin said her word isn't good enough.
"It just seems like a lot of her statements that she's made have been really
inaccurate," he said.
"I can't take everything she says for granted. I mean when she initially
told me the whole reason why, for donating sperm in the first place, you
know was to get pregnant because she was not going to be able to have kids.
And it, you know, has turned into this."
Beaudoin said he wants a DNA test just to know the truth. Regardless of the
children's paternity, Beaudoin said he is willing to help the single mother
of 14 raise the children because he does not believe she can handle it on
"Either which way, you know, know that if she needs it I'll lend a helping
hand," he said. "She needs help. I mean it's hard. It's hard nowadays to
raise two kids, let alone 14."
Beaudoin said he is coming forward now because he knew his name would
eventually surface as the potential father and, considering the negative
publicity surrounding Suleman, he wanted to tell his story first.
Beaudoin said he tried to reach out to Suleman but she never returned his
calls. Now a business owner with a wife and two sons, Beaudoin said the
entire ordeal has been very hard on his family.
"You know my wife, she's not real happy about, you know, the whole
situation. I mean, you can't really blame her. I mean I kind of threw this
in her lap after, you know, it kind of hit the news," he said.
Though he said they dated for three years, Beaudoin now believes Suleman was
married at the time.
Controversy Surrounds Suleman
ABC News has learned through San Bernardino Superior Court Records that
Suleman, 33, divorced her husband, Marcos Gutierrez, in January 2008.
The divorce document indicates "no children of the marriage," suggesting
that Gutierrez was not the father of Suleman's previous six children.
When asked if Suleman, who lives with her parents and collects food stamps,
could handle raising another eight children, the possible biological father
Suleman made headlines in late January when news that she delivered eight
viable babies was heralded as a medical marvel.
In the days that followed the Jan. 23 delivery, critics raised a host of
questions about the single mother who had previously given birth to six
other children, all of whom had been conceived through artificial
insemination, and about her ability to financially support 14 children.
Suleman is unemployed and lives in a three-bedroom home with her parents,
who have publicly criticized their daughter's decision to have so many
Property records show Suleman's mother, Angela, owns the home and is $23,225
behind in her mortgage payments. The house could be sold at auction
beginning May 5.
Suleman told NBC that she does not intend to go on welfare. Earlier this
month, her then-publicist said Suleman already receives $490 a month in food
stamps and child disability payments to help feed and care for her six other
At least one of those children is believed to have autism.
Critics also have attacked a fertility doctor for implanting eight embryos
in Suleman's womb during her attempts to get pregnant.
"I'm really angry about that," Angela Suleman told RadarOnline. "She already
has six beautiful children. Why would she do this? I'm struggling to look
after her six. We had to put in bunk beds, feed them in shifts and there's
children's clothing piled all over the house."
Suleman and her parents have not publicly named the sperm donor or the
fertility doctor who implanted her with the embryos.
Question of Ethics Surrounding Octuplet Doctor
Earlier this month, Suleman told NBC's "Today" that a single doctor helped
her conceive all 14 children.
While she did not reveal the identity of the doctor, a 2006 report by
television station KTLA shows a grateful Suleman praising the work of
Beverly Hills physician Michael Kamrava, who runs a fertility practice. In
the report, he says that he used a controversial procedure that he claims
makes it much easier to implant women with embryos.
Since the birth of the octuplets -- who were born nine weeks premature at
Kaiser Permanente Hospital in Bellflower, Calif. -- a number of fertility
experts and bioethicists have criticized Suleman and her physician for
dangerously implanting so many embryos.
"Anyone who transfers eight embryos should be arrested for malpractice,"
said University of Pennsylvania bioethicist Arthur Caplan.
Studies have shown that the tendency toward premature delivery and low birth
weight in multiple-birth babies puts them at greater risk for a variety of
complications, including respiratory problems at birth, cerebral palsy,
birth defects, sensory disorders and even death. These risks increase as the
number of babies in the multiple birth increases.
A California-based nonprofit called Angels in Waiting has offered Suleman
round-the-clock care and a place to stay with her 14 children. It would cost
about $135,000 a month to provide the 12 caretakers necessary for the
children, money that would have to come from public donations.
Two issues: "Dad" and "Angels in Waiting"
Seems to me that the possible father, Denis Beaudoin, might be
foolish asking for a DNA test. If there is a possibility that he
could be hit up for child support, he could be guaranteed poverty for
thje next two decades.
Of course, with artificial insemination, there are laws to protect
against that, but I'm not sure they apply in cases where the donor was
not an anonymous donor. This guy was known to the mom and volunteered
to give semen to the mom.
As far as "Angels."
To start with, I'm distrustful of dishonest organizations and I think
any organization with "Angel" in their title is dishonest.
Sentimental dishonesty is still dishonesty.
They say care for 6 months. BUT the publicity and somewhat the set-
up where no one from Suleman's family gets the money, will lead to a
lot of donations over the next few months. What happens to the money
if it exceeds the cost to the "Angels" (make me gag) organization?
Would this go to some trust for the kids? If it would, then MAYBE the
offer is something Suleman would be foolish to pass.
Would it go to the organization? That is what I would suspect. Then
the "Angels" are just another group trying to make the kids a cash
cow for them.
Gloria "put-me-in-the-headlines" Allred has had some reasonable cases,
but I'm immediately suspicious of someone using her as their public
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