Re: Evidence suggests McCain lost?

Ruthless wrote:
Hey Poe,

I am hoping most of us who voted for McCain will get on board with Obama now that the election is over. I worried about Obama's far-left stance on some things and that he'd preside over the country that way, worried about who he'd appoint to the Supreme Court, like that. But bottom line is, the country is changing and we all need to change with it. Obama is a smart man, and I trust he'll honestly try to do what is best for the country - even if his primary motivation is to preserve his place in history as a good choice! So I am suspending further judgment until I see what he does, and I'll give credit where due.

Wanna know something about me that you'll probably find rather terrifying?
I voted for Obama and I'm glad he won, but he's always been a little too
right for me.

I'm Kitty's nemesis, I suppose... a non-christian socialist. I'm a white
chick... I came out of the womb a baldo-waldo white baby... but I still
let my hair grow as it sees fit, straight down my back and parted in the
middle. I still flash a peace sign when thanking someone for letting me
out at a busy intersection. I still wear tie-die as an identifier, and the
only visible tattoo I've got on my body is a rainbow combination of a
pentacle and a peace sign. I usually vote Democrat, but I've voted
Socialist in the past, and might well vote that way again in the future. I
barely make enough money to make ends meet but I'll drop a buck into a
homeless person's cup without thinking twice about it, and I donate small
amounts regularly to organizations that help the needy. I've never kept a
record of donations for tax purposes because in my mind that's karma money
and it would be dirtied if I took a tax-credit for it. I pay my taxes and
feel badly that so much of that money goes to killing people. I'd like to
see America finally clue that the Public School System is a Socialist
System, and a worthwhile one, one that deserves at least as much money as
our Military gets. I'd like to see equal amounts of money going to
Socialized Medicine in our Country. I believe that every human being has
the right to enough food to live, a roof over their heads, a good
education, and basic medical care. I believe that Government should exist
for all the people, including the ones who, for whatever reason, aren't
capable of putting enough food on their table or a roof over their head;
who aren't capable of getting or using a decent education, and who can't
pay for basic medical care. I rather doubt that Obama would align himself
with me. I'm far too left for his taste.

I assure you not all republicans plan to dig in with our guns in the mountains of Montana or whatever. Everyone I've spoken with today who voted as I did feels OK about this (sure, some begrudgingly, but nobody is frothing at the mouth).

I don't believe that most Republicans are feeling like Kitty claimed she
was feeling. I think it bothered me so much because I was afraid some
people *would* believe it was a common feeling among the Republicans.

Yesterday, my husband and I picked up some stuff to celebrate Obama's win.
This was hours before we knew he'd win, we were shopping on faith. My
husband asked what we were going to do with all this stuff if Obama lost,
and I said we'd save it for a better day.

I was in the checkout line with a bottle of half-decent bubbly and a bag
of frozen strawberries and a couple cans of extra-rich whipped cream and
the young gentleman ringing up my sales asked what we were celebrating. I
told him we were planning to celebrate the election results and he said,
"When Palin wins?" I laughed and said, "Take a look at us... we're a
couple old hippies. We've never voted for a Republican in our lives." He
shook his head sadly and said, "Well, I hope you won't be celebrating
then. Because if Obama wins, he's gonna get assassinated in a week. Mark
my words." I said, "That would suck, but it would be a huge mistake. It
would just make him a Martyr, and we'd see his agenda pushed forward for
the next decade." He said, "Well, he's gonna try to take away all our
guns, and that's just not okay. So somebody will have to kill him."

What crazy thinking! The kind of people who think that way are the kind of
people who will ultimately cause us to lose those guns we love so much.
And trying to tell him that would have been wasted effort. Such craziness!
I just don't get it.

One of my biggest wishes out of this, and I hope this doesn't come off as sounding racist, but I hope this will have a huge positive influence in particular for young minorities, esp African American kids and young men. It seems like some feel they're stuck in a rut, and they get tangled up with violence and gangs. I am hoping this sends a clear message that things have changed and they do have control over their destinies.

Not racist at all. I wept last night. I remember desegregation of the
Public Schools in North Carolina. I was a part of that. I remember the
Greensboro Nazi-Klan massacre in 1979, and the resulting not-guilty
verdicts of those terrible men. I never, ever, ever in my life had any
hope that I would live to see this day. This is a day of hope beyond all
my dreams. I NEVER believed I'd see a black man in the White House. Just a
year ago I was telling people that Obama didn't have a chance... he was
just another stepping stone, that we'd probably elect a woman or Latino
before we'd elect a black man, and we certainly wouldn't vote for one who
hadn't done a double-term as Vice-President. And I was so gloriously
wrong! I'm so damn grateful I lived to see this day. Today gives me hope
for America. Why shouldn't it also give hope and pride to youth who can
see their own potential mirrored in Obama's victory? Of course it should!
Of course it will! This is a great day in America. One of the greatest. I
got to live long enough to see this. I'm. so. damn. grateful! I got to see
this before I died. I got to be a part of this!

Oh there I go getting all goofy again. Anyhoo, nice to see you around, it has been a while!

You know, I keep getting older, and every day I get older, I seem to get
mellower. I just don't have the energy to get involved in things with the
sort of passion I had as a youth and young adult. I'm still here. I always
read. I pretty much love you guys, and I'm always interested in what's
being posted... but most of the time, I can't think of a thing to say.
But, as always, it's nice to be welcomed when I bother to post. :)

Davi
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People are like diamonds. They have many facets.


My problem with socialism is that I don't have much faith in human nature, and I think the approach would bring down productivity overall - most will be a taker, not a giver. I think I am libertarian more than anything else, though I do support our troops, which I think would not be on the agenda of libertarians (this just based on a cursory understanding).

Overall, though, I think the party system has run its course and we need something akin to a menu-based approach. E.g, women's issues, national security, economic policy, and so-on - I'd prefer to pick and choose not a party, but items that comprise an overall belief system, and then the candidate that most closely represents it.

Another cool idea that will never take hold is the notion of voting for first, second, and third choice. That way, if you think your vote won't be *completely* wasted by, say, voting for Ralf Nader, you could do so at the same time as casting a vote for a more likely candidate. Know what I mean? It could also be used to gage support for unlikely candidates/platforms for now, but who may be gaining favor over time.

I admit to feeling a sense of pride when Obama won, or empathy or whatever, when I saw clips of people with tears streaming down, esp (again) Africa Americans, who probably see this as *so* huge. I didn't really think about it that way until near the end.

Wrt the nut who wishes death to Obama, that's so wrong on more than one level. First, he one fair and square. Second, WTF would that say about the US to the world? It would say we are indeed a mean and racist country. Finally, it would deprive those precious girls from a father.

Anyway, I am so wordy lately. I think it is my migraine pain meds kicking in (give a buzz, apparently on he wordy side :-P )....



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