Re: OT / 'Joe the Plumber' talks about running for Congress



Nancy Rudins wrote:
Poe wrote:
Nancy Rudins wrote:
Poe wrote:
Bart Bailey wrote:
In Message-ID:<sSxMk.47266$IB6.22366@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> posted on
Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:12:07 -0400, tiny dancer wrote: Begin
'Joe the Plumber' talks about running for Congress

With his displayed level of specious qualities, he'll likely run as a Republican.


Because he asked a question based on a premise that IMO could very well have been true?

I'm surprised by your reaction to this guy. I thought democrats were "for the little guy" and all that, and I assume you're a democrat. Yet with no evidence, you seem convinced he was a plant, he planned his encounter with Obama (very unlikely since it was not a planned stop, why on earth would anyone but the inside circle know it was coming?), you're somehow sure he wasn't really planning to buy a small business (he never said when, btw - he might have been thinking a while out, or a partnership with someone else), etc.

To simply rely on dirt from one side, while completely ignoring that there are two sides to every story (and we haven't hear Joe defend every little charge against him), is just wrong. It is what wing-nuts do, and it is why wing-nuts become *so* convinced of their side, because they keep seeing evidence of their view when they ignore everything else.

I thought at one time you were more objective and logical than you've been lately regarding events surrounding the election.

Really, is no one concerned about the mortgage implosion?

Nancy


I am, because that snowballed into the crisis that has diminished my 401(k) a LOT - but I am also concerned about the rights of a citizen to ask questions of a politician. It is important to be able to question our current and future leaders. Based on how JtP has been treated, other people will certainly think twice about trying that again, which is too bad. I know I would be very afraid of what the press would do to me, especially with the help of cops and other government employees querying DMV and other .gov databases, and then throwing all these things out there out of context, perhaps not even inaccurate or up to date information.

For instance, he supposedly owed like $1K back taxes (not that that is any of our business...). Well, I found out I did for 2007, too - first reported as 5-digit deficit because of an incorrect statement from my brokerage firm (they did not factor in the basis, so the sale of the asset was incorrectly calculated at 100% cap gains based on an incorrect purchase price of $0), later corrected to be a low 3-digit number. None if it was my error, and the IRS was in the process of dealing with a slew of people in my shoes, did't blame me at all, because it was a popular asset from a large brokerage firm. So, out of context or bad timing, or without all the related information, that little detail could be cast in such a way to make me look REALLY bad to people hoping to disparage me. I suspect a lot of the criticism of Joe is like that.

Long winded today I guess, but I am amazed at the attack on an innocent guy simply asking a question, and the lack of objectivity by people eating up the dirt.








I'm amazed as well. Whoever is elected in November has
one hell of a financial mess--something that neither
bargained for during primaries--as well as a few wars
going on. Yet everyone is harping about Joe the Plumber
and Sarah Palin's wardrobe. I can't believe how petty
folks are.

Nancy



ITA, the pettiness is amazing.
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