Re: Crime? Mystery ..fourth human foot washes ashore


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Mystery deepens as fourth human foot washes ashore
May 24, 2008 - 2:29PM
Another severed human foot has been discovered washed ashore on
Canada's
Pacific coast, but police are no closer to solving the gruesome
mystery on
where they are coming from.

The shoe-clad foot was discovered yesterday on a small uninhabited
island south of Vancouver in the Strait of Georgia, and is the fourth
discovered in the region in the past 10 months.

All four cases involved right feet, and each was found on a
different island. The earlier feet were also still in shoes.

The discoveries have sparked wide speculation over where the feet
came from and who they belonged to, but the Royal Canadian Mounted Police
warned people today "not to get caught up in unsubstantiated theories".

None of the severed feet appears to have been forcibly removed, and
because the shoes would have protected the feet as they floated in the
water, forensic experts say they could even have floated into the strait
from a long distance away.

DNA testing has failed to link the earlier discoveries to any
missing person cases in British Columbia.

Last August, a foot was found inside a man's Reebok sneaker on a
nearby island, just a few days after another foot was discovered by
beachcombers on another Island.

The remains of a third right foot were found on February 8.

There is no evidence to suggest the foot - or any or the previous
three - was forcibly removed, Police Constable Annie Linteau said.

"All four were wearing socks and were in a running shoe," Linteau
said.

Two of the feet are sise 12. Police are not releasing the size of
the others.

There has been speculation the feet may have come from a plane which
hit the water three years ago killing five men off the islands. Only one
body was recovered.

The victims' families paid for the plane wreckage to be pulled from
the depths but there were no bodies inside the wreckage.

Linteau could not comment whether or not the feet were from the
crash victims.

"That's something we are exploring as well," she said.

Reuters

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/mystery-deepens-as-fourth-human-foot...
shore/2008/05/24/1211183164271.html

Wonder why they keep saying "not forcibly removed"? As if a
person
just =accidently= lost his foot??

jc

I think they mean that it doesn't appear to have saw marks or any
other marks that make it appear to have been amputated by a human being.
That means it may have just floated away from the rest of the body or, being
in a shoe, been too difficult for the sharks or fish to gnaw on. So it
seems that either these feet came from the guys on the plane or that
maybe some did and someone else fell off a trail into the ocean or
someone fell off a boat. I noticed that 2 shoes were size 12, which
statistically would mean those two were men's feet. I notice it didn't
confirm that or say that the other two were men's feet or women's
feet.

Strange, but probably not a killer lopping off feet and tossing them
off shore to be found. :)

Hester Mofet

...except that they're all RIGHT feet. That lends a bit of
creepiness.

If it's the plane victims, that's an odds-busting coincidence.

I'm picturing people somehow restrained by one foot....and forced
to work. Perhaps some penal colony-boat-thing in Asia?

Kris

The all-right feet thing is quite an oddity, you're right. I would put
my money on coincidence, though, before a floating penal colony. I
would think if they ran DNA, they would release the information that
the victims were all Asian if that were the case.

If you end up being right, well, I'll buy ya a drink next time you're
in town. :)

Hester Mofet

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/world/americas/04feet.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

Nor has anyone reported finding any left feet.

“They might be aggregated somewhere else,” said Curtis Ebbesmeyer, a
former professor of oceanography at the University of Washington who
has made a career of tracking the routes of floating objects,
including (empty) sneakers spilled from cargo ships. Mr. Ebbesmeyer
said the opposite shapes of left and right shoes could make them
respond differently to currents.

snip

Ms. Geris has heard more rumors than most people. Last August, at the
end of a long afternoon hike on the island with her husband, George
Baugh, she spotted a shoe near the trunk of a tree, just a few yards
from a tidal cove, and she knew instantly that the shoe was not empty.

“It was such a hell of a big foot,” said Ms. Geris, 51, a native of
France. “My theory is that it washed onto the beach and then an animal
picked it up.”

It was foot No. 2, sheathed in a white leather Reebok. Size 12.

The couple used their walking sticks to set the foot on its sole.
Flies flew out. They saw the frayed threads of a sock, then bone,
yellowed by time and water, like quartz. They tried to call the police
but there was no cellphone reception. They decided to hike out in
search of a phone signal, leaving the foot.

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I mean, you don't just accidentally lose a foot FGS. How can they tell it
wasn't forcibly removed when the bone was yellowed by time and water (and
animals gnawing and whatever else). Too many coincidences in this. All
right feet and all with shoes on, what are the odds of that. It sounds
intentional for whatever reason.

Chocolic

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=943bf6e1-1f65-4419-b046-e0bbbe16b147&k=78604&p=1

12-year-old girl from Washington state found the first foot on Aug.
20 while her family was boating near Jedidiah Island, said Bruce
Jones, owner of Innovative Aquaculture Ltd. and de facto caretaker of
the 240-hectare island.

"It was a drizzly day and the little girl was walking on the shore,"
he said Thursday.

"There were five different shoes on the beach and for some reason she
picked up that one, untied the laces, turned the sock inside out and
found the foot."

The family used a borrowed radio to alert authorities, Jones added.

Although the coast guard, RCMP and B.C. Coroners Service arrived on
scene, Jones said.

"I thought it would be like CSI, but it was anticlimactic. The only
thing the same was the little plastic bag they used," he said.

Both feet still had flesh intact, although they were in varying states
of decomposition, said Vancouver Island regional coroner Rose Stanton.

"Finding two feet is an anomaly as far as I'm concerned. There are
lots of human remains reported after storms and erosion and at old
gravesites but they are just bones," she said.

"The similarity and proximity make it easy to draw the conclusion they
are related, but a lot of people go missing in the water. Bodies float
and move with the tides."

The coroners service is conducting DNA analysis of the feet in
Vancouver.

A forensic anthropologist will try to determine the gender, age and
race of their owners, while a forensic pathologist will determine if
they were severed, or part of a decomposing body, Stanton said.

The feet appear to have washed ashore, Stanton said, adding it looks
like the foot found on Gabriola was waterlogged and then dragged on
shore by animals.

"Remains tend to sink in the water and the sea life preys upon the
body and it comes apart. The ankle joints are especially weak. It's
possible they floated up because the soles of the shoes still had air
in them, or because they were contained or trapped and were just
released."
.

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