Re: 48 Hours -- The Right to Kill



Michael Snyder wrote:


It
is when I think of humans (including women, of course) in other
situations that I worry... people in Muslim nations, etc.

Including men, too, but I'll assume you meant that...


I meant humans in general, who are being mistreated, and who don't have the same level of human rights those of us in civilized cultures enjoy. The specifics vary from place to place, and culture to culture.



Yep -- in BOTH directions, not just against women.
In fact, if you truly have your ears open, there are FAR
more sexist comments these days against men.

but
we can make them back (and we do).

Now I'm feeling less proud of you.
You can't fight sexism by practicing sexism.
There is no such thing as "reverse sexism", there's just sexism.
"Getting even" does not lead us anywhere we want to go.


My point is not about getting even. It is about (IMO) *feeling* even. I feel like I can say the same sorts of things men can, and get the same general result as men do.

Not sure I can get my point across exactly here in typing - but I see the comments about, say, boinking Susan Smith while she's still hot looking (further up in this thread). It doesn't bother me, because I figure it was made in the spirit of humor, not misogyny; plus, I too sometimes make sexist remarks that some might feel are in poor taste (Sam Elliot in particular...), and I know the spirit in which I do so is just humor, not misandry. It's not at all about fighting back.


I worry much more about the really
oppressed and mistreated at this point, and I don't think we're the ones
suffering anymore.

Nor ever were. Woman never was "the *** of the world".
Black people were slaves. Women weren't. Black people
were property, bought and sold. Women in general weren't.
Although you might be able to find instances of it happening,
it was never the norm, and men have been slaves and boy
children have been bought and sold. Woman as *** was
always a deception.


Well, most American women weren't/aren't, but women seem outright detested in some cultures, and sometimes do seem to be relegated to a slavish role. But I also realize it isn't just women. When I went to India recently I was reminded how there is still such a caste system in place. I was in a meeting and one of the business men we were meeting with got up and nearly struck one of the servants for giving one of us, who was a vegan, meat on his plate. And driving around there, seeing children naked walking the streets, living under bridges, and everyone figures its as it should be. There are a lot of inequities in this world that need to be leveled out. Woman in some cultures are part of it, but not all of it.






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