Re: Amanda Knox's American law "consultant"

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:51:43 -0700, comadrejo wrote:

In article <pan.2008.03.11.22.36.23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wilkes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

These are the classic techniques by which investigators railroad an
innocent suspect. They say they've got evidence to prove the suspect
is lying. They say that others are incriminating the suspect. They
look for tiny inconsistencies and make the suspect feel like he/she is
lying even if he/she is telling the truth.


I don't see anything wrong with what they did.

I'm afraid I do. They used lies and pressure tactics to make these kids
give a false account of their activities. Why do you suppose Knox
implicated Lumumba? Do you think she'd have done that if they weren't
pressuring her? Of course not. They picked up on this text message to
Lumumba where she wrote "see you later" and pressured her into concocting
a complete fable about his involvement.

What if Lumumba had been at home alone that night, instead of at a public
place? He would most likely still be in jail.

The Carabinieri separated the suspects and hammered on inconsistencies
in their stories. The Police also easily broke down Sollecito and
Knox's alibis, given Sollecito didn't have any computer activity during
the hours he stated, and he changed his story quicker than Knox did to
the police. He threw Amanda under the bus before she broked down.
Sollecito's second alibi was that he was in the main square by himself.

If Knox and Sollecito were not involved in the murder of Meredith
Kercher, then they would stick by their alibis, and have some proof that
they were as they stated.

Why didn't Kevin Fox stick by his story, instead of confessing to a
murder he didn't commit? Do you think it might have had to do with the
fact that he was isolated and his interrogators were telling him that
everyone he knew had turned against him?

Much like Patrick Lumumba did have alibi
witnesses, and there is no direct or circumstantial evidence tying him
to the crime scene, and he went through a very unpleasant experience,
but he was pretty much cleared.

The McCanns of the Madeleine McCann case went through a long police
interview, something like over 8 hours in which the cops pretty much
accused them of killing Madeleine, and demanding where they hid the
body. The evidence against the McCanns is flimsy to say the least, but
the police have to do their jobs.

Well, suppose the McCanns had cracked under this pressure and confessed
to something they didn't do? Would that have been a good example of the
police doing their jobs? Is it a good thing when the police freak people
out so badly they are willing to implicate themselves in crimes they did
not commit?

Knox and Sollecito aren't being railroaded, there is strong direct
evidence tying them to the crime.

They have described one piece of evidence that could be pivotal, and that
is the knife from Sollecito's apt. If this knife does, in fact, have
Kercher's DNA on it, it will be a huge problem for the defense. It will
certainly change my assessment of this case. But I'll bet it won't pan
out.

As for the rest, it will vanish in a puff of smoke when gone over in
court by expert witnesses. IMO.


You mentioned the Wenatchee Molestation trial or the McMartin
Pre-School case, what made them as a travesty of justice was the
eyewitness testimony, which took time to show it was flawed and
prejudicial, ditto what happened with the Little Rascal Day Care trial
in North Carolina.

Sure. But what made these cases unusual was the elaborate theory put
forth by prosecutors, in which dozens of adults and children were
involved in wild orgies that occurred on a regular basis over the span of
months and even years. It took a long time for common sense to assert
itself in these cases. But eventually people looked at the big picture
and realized these theories don't square with any known reality -- they
are products of a wild imagination.

Now, in Italy, we have this man Magnini, who thinks a series of murders
committed in the 70s and 80s were done on behalf of a satanic cult, one
that dates back to the medieval era and whose present-day members include
some of the wealthiest elites of Florence. He gets very upset with
journalists who suggest a different theory... to the point where he threw
one of them in jail and threw another one out of the country. And now we
learn that this same man thinks the rape/murder of Meredith Kercher was
the result of an elaborate sex game involving three individuals, two of
whom have no criminal history or any known history of violence.

It will be interesting to see what happens next.

Charlie



If the DNA and other forensic science tests come back putting Knox
and Sollecito at the crime scene during the timeframe that Knox was
murdered, that is better than any eyewitness testimony.
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