Re: Treatment Leads Molestors From Temptation


"Bo Raxo" <crimenewscenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Dec 1, 7:32 am, "nimue" <cup_o_ca...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Bo Raxo wrote:
On Nov 28, 7:32 pm, "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Bo Raxo" <crimenewscen...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message


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On Nov 28, 6:37 pm, "nimue" <cup_o_ca...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Bo Raxo wrote:

For certain types of molesters treatment
lowers recidivism rates. That's a fact.

It may. It may. And it's not worth the risk. The cost is just
way too high.

You assume that all molesters have committed the most heinous types
of crimes. Typical of the hysteria around this subject. Some
child sex offenders committed crimes like exposing themselves,
inappropriate touching, showing the child pornography.

Now you are trying to double talk your way out of something here.
You know perfectly well these *treatments* aren't meant for somebody
who's *exposed themselves* to a child. The kind of *treatment* you
have been referring to is for serious sexual offenses against
children. We aren't talking the 'you show me your/I'll show you
mine.' Simple *touching*. We are talking about child rapists,
pedophiles, those who sodomize young children. Don't try to change
the subject of this discussion.

Actually, you're wrong. Not surprising, since you don't believe in
such treatment it is no surprise you don't know anything about them.

Google up treatment for non-violent sexual offenses. See how there
are studies about recidivism rates for non-violent sex offenders who
receive treatment, and those who don't.

Who am I kidding, I've posted links to such studies before: you never
read them. You've made up your mind. All else is sophistry.

Still crimes, still worth

putting them in lockup, but not the same risk letting them out as
someone who committed more serious sexual offenses.

So you think these sex offender treatment programs you are
purporting are for flashers??? If you think I buy that, you are
WRONG.

Whether you buy it or not, yes they do order flashers in to
treatment.

I may be mistaken, but I do not think that tiny is saying that treatment
programs are not for flashers -- I think she is expressing shock that
you
expect programs that are used for flashers to work for the people who
rape
children. Get it?

Non-contact sex offenders are ordered in to treatment, and
no doubt some seek treatment on their own.

But continue to bury your head in the sand.

Actually, that is what you are doing. Why haven't you responded to the
very
real issue I have raised? I said that treatment fails -- that there is
no
100% successful treatment for any addiction. Given that, do you think
it is
safe to gamble that treatment MIGHT work, that a person who rapes
children
MIGHT not re-offend, and let that person go free? I don't. Give the
offender treatment in prison, but make sure the offender STAYS in
prison.


I did respond to it. I'll say the same thing again, since you
apparently missed that post:

You posit a false dilemma. You are pretending the choice is between
treatment or keeping them locked up. But it isn't. Few are sentenced
to life in prison. There is no realistic chance any time soon that
*every* person who molests *any* child will automatically get a life
no parole sentence on the first offense.

So these people will get out, with treatment or without. Your dilemma
is false.

So the choice is: get out with treatment, or get out without
treatment Treatment does make it less likely they will reoffend, and
treatment helps reveal which types of offenders are more likely to
reoffend and which are less likely .


Joseph Duncan
Alfonso Rodriguez Jr,
Alegandro Avila.
John Couey
Joseph Smith
Richard Allan Davis
Lamont Hunter
Jeffrey Voss
Jose Medellin
Chester Stiles
Marc Dutroux
Edward Lewis Lagrone
Roy William Whiting



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