Re: Andrea Yates: Interesting Info from Jailhouse Informant


tiny dancer wrote:
"Bo Raxo" <forensics@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Uh, "inmates" refer to actual prison inmates. A county jail prisoner
in for violating probation on a minor charge is different. It is
entirely possible that Felicia is an attention whore and wanted to be
part of a big case, but again: she gave details that weren't public and
were easily checked - the vomit, the blinds, the striking Noah's head
several times on the edge of the tub. The prosecution would have
checked these details.


Those details came out at the first trial.




I didn't know that, very interesting.




That tells me Andrea really did tell her these details. Now that
doesn't rule out Felicia making up the rest, I'll admit.


I don't think anybody is contending that Andrea Yates was catatonic
while
she was killing her children. She was supposedly catatonic during a
doctor's visit *before* the drownings.


Tiny seems to contend (and Tiny, correct me if I'm wrong) that she was
catatonic throughout this entire period. And yet managed to drown five
children, the oldest seven years of age.


Nope, I have never said she was catatonic throughout the entire period.
Please cite where I ever said that? I said she was catatonic when she
first presented to Saaed, per his own testimony.

My mistake, I apologize.


In fact I have often stated that in the days leading up to the killings,
both Rusty and his mother stated that andrea 'paced the house, stared at the
television for up to 30 minutes at a time, whether it was turned on or off.
Andrea pulled clumps of her hair out by the handfuls, gouged hunks of skin
out of her limbs, etc. Those are not the actions of a catatonic person.
Psychotic yes, catatonic no.

That's one interpretation, there are other diagnoses that can be
reached from that behavior. And *grossly* psychotic requires much
more: delusions, hearing voices, more serious signs of dissassociation
from reality. The symptoms you describe can be ascribed to severe
depression.

Have you ever actually seen a person in the
throes of a psychotic schizophrenic episode? Have you seen the expression
on their face as they are listening to/hearing the voices in their head?


Yes, I have. Had one 5150'd, a friend's roommate. Months later when
he was released, he profusely thanked me. My only regret was that I
didn't snatch up his fine collection of swords, the police seized them
and he never got any of 'em back. But then, at the time I didn't want
to cast any doubts about my motive in getting him forcibly committed
for a psych evaluation.

In fact, that same guy recently insisted I borrow a book from him.
He's in to all kinds of fringe science and psychic junk. He handed me
a paperback that purports to scientifically prove the existance of all
kinds of psychic phenomena, it was from the early 70s (he's an older
fellow, so has a lot of books he collected over the years).

I look at the book, and the cover says, "with forward by Ira Einhorn".
I'm thinking, could it be? I check the foreward, and it says, "Ira
Einhorn, Philadelphia, 1972". Yeah, the Unicorn himself. Weird, eh?


Bo Raxo

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