Re: Jon Benet question - suppose it was you

On 28 Jun 2006 08:12:04 -0700, "scooter34"
<momofpeanutLiz@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

EnEss wrote:
"Ganjette" wrote:

<UncleClover" wrote:
Would it be possible her head cracked from bouncing off the cellar stairs
while
being dragged by someone too weak to carry her? Or has that possibility
already
been dealt with/dismissed? :-?

I hadn't heard that theory mentioned before. But the crack in her
skull was a significant injury. I don't think even a six-year-old
could have her cranium cracked like that unless a sharp blow was
delivered. My non-expert opinion is that it couldn't have resulted from
being bumped, even repeatedly.

I sort of agree, which is the one reason I've always had problems w/ the
idea that any family member was responsible for the head injury. Given who
the parents were and the kind of parents they were by all accounts, it's
never made sense to me that either parent, or even the brother, could have
hit JonBenet over the head so hard as to inflict the injury she sustained. I
don't care how much stress Patsy was under...I can see her maybe blowing up
at the girl and hollering at her if she was really stressed about the
bed-wetting or something...but going ballistic and clobbering her over the
head so hard it cracked her skull? I just don't see it. Some people theorize
the girl fell back against a tub and hit her head in the midst of her mother
cleaning her up roughly. I could see that, maybe. But as you say, the idea
that she could've sustained the severe injury she did from simply cracking
her head against the edge of the tub. Fatalies from injuries like that
happen all the time on TV, but very rarely in the real world.

That's why as much as the ransom note written inside the home makes little
sense in regard to the intruder theory, the blow to the head by a parent or
the brother and cover-up makes just as little sense, IMO.

NS
(add sbc before global to email)
I think you're overestimating the amount of force required to crack a
skull. Her scalp wasn't split, which if I recall correctly from my
misspent youth, indicates a single blow. The fracture had both linear
and comminuted features (a straight line and an area shattered into
pieces.) I am reminded of a dropped plate, which may split generally
along a straight line, but have an area of impact that shatters into
fragments.

According to Google Answers, the force necessary to fracture a skull is
not as much as you might think - between 16 and 196 pounds (which is
totally wrong because force isn't measured in pounds, but in ft/lbs,
for us Yanks), but it gives you an idea.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=23646

Force = Mass x acceleration
If you take as a wholly out-of-my-a** guess that a child's head has a
mass of 10 lbs. (4.54 kg), and multiply it by the acceleration of
gravity (9.8 m/s), you're coming up with 44.5 newtons of force. But
the head doesn't exist in a vacumn (there's body mass associated with
it) and presumably the child was pushed, jerked, or thrown, causing
acceleration to be unknown, and that ole' force starts creeping up
quickly. So, although you're envisioning a deliberate strike by a
parent with an object, hard enough to cause that gaping wound, please
know that a fall certainly could cause that damage. And please, feel
free to tear apart my simplistic explanation - I am not a doctor nor a
scientist - but don't expect me to defend it to the death. Nobody
knows, and isn't that the point of this discussion?

Since falling and getting bruised on the face or head is not an
uncommon accident among small children, I would presume that the force
necessary to produce the fracture in this case was more than one would
have just simply falling. Maybe if it was the result of a fall of
considerable distance, it could happen. But I find it hard to think
that a mere fall (as in down steps) could do it. Were that the case,
broken skulls would be quite common.

I can't find a way to picture an intruder, supremely controlled enough
to bring an object with him with which he hit a child only once, hard
enough to kill her, who didn't bring anything else with him at all to
play out his fantasies. He was also lucky enough to choose a weapon
that left no impression or forensic evidence behind when it was
employed. Is he organized or disorganized? Apparently both.

scooter34
.

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