Re: Stivers tried to get rescuers attention


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I said they should burn a spare tire. But if you're stuck, you could
burn ALL your tires. You can always get more. You can't replace
your kids' and grandkids' lives, though. Douse a tire in gasoline
and keep throwing wood on.

And where is all this dry wood coming from, in the middle of winter?

I wonder if the search aircraft are equipped with anything to detect a
cell
phone. Probably not, but that would be a good idea. That way even if
they
aren't in range of a cell tower, the search plane could fly over and
home in
on them via triangulation by signal strength.

1) The cell phone would have to be actively transmitting during the
same time period the plane was searching on those freqs.
2) True triangulation requires more than one receiving station. A
single plane wouldn't yield very effective results. In amateur radio
we call this sort of searching a "fox hunt" and do it for fun.
3) The Stivers took steps to make the RV more visible from the air, to
no avail. They are reported to have burned things, also to no avail.
4) You're wasting your time here. There's still meat on the bones Bo.
They won't quit until fresh meat comes along.

Carmen


Take a pill, Carmen.

You are unwilling to acknowledge any ideas or information that undermines
your theory these people did absolutely nothing. Why is that?

First of all, if they did some things like we discussed here, GREAT.
However, I saw them interviewed and they said they PRAYED -- nothing else.
I'm going on what I saw them say. <shrug> So, what's your point and WTF is
with Carmen's hysteria? Do you both honestly think that people should not
have a hand in their own fate? That sitting and praying is appropriate
action? What's you POINT?

Did you read Betsy's post? They did stuff to attract attention. It
didn't work. You're *still* being rotten even after being told they
took actions to help themselves beyond just praying. I can't speak for
Poe, but my point is now that your nominal "They didn't do anything to
help themselves" talking point has been refuted you're still being
nasty. It's not a new thing for you and a few others, and it isn't
likely to stop until someone else comes along for you to sharpen your
claws on.

Carmen

My point always was why that they took that road in the first place.
It was
6:00 pm when they left, it took an hour from Ashland to get to that
turnoff so it was
7:00 pm. The stepfather said he wanted to take the scenic route across
the mountains to the ocean. It's at least 7:00 pm, what can you see at
that time. And we don't even know what the weather forecast was for
that night or the next day. I''m not saying I'm not happy they made it
out
ok, of course I am. But I am questioning why they took that route, and
why they went up a gravel road in an RV. I don't think the original
road is gravel, but I think it's narrow and one lane in places. You want to do that at
night in a motorhome. What will you get to see?

They wouldn't know until they took it, would they? When they set out
again in the morning they may have been treated to some lovely scenery.
Don't you do things on a chance? I hope so. Life lived completely
safely isn't lived. Why did you take the hideous road to the Lost
Coast? Because it was there perhaps? Because sometimes people think
they're making a perfectly run-of-the-mill decision and find out later
that it was anything but? Because <gasp> people aren't perfect?

Carmen

I didn't take the road at 7:00 pm, I didn't take it in an RV, and I
didn't have
two kids and two people who needed to be back the following day. The
father of the children was scheduled to work the next midnight shift
(Sun/Mon),
the children had school on Monday. Yes people need to take chances,
but
they also have to be responsible, especially when it's not only
yourself that
is involved.

You've never made anything but responsible choices among the choices
that affected other people your entire life? Of course not. Silly of
me to even ask. Only mortals make mistakes. Somehow ATC attracted a
small cadre of perfect beings who don't, thereby entitling them to
criticise pretty much anyone else they please. You're not one of them
normally, just a tag-along this time, but you do the cosplay pretty
well. Need to work on the venom though. The venom is missing.

Carmen

I'm not a tagalong, I stated it early that I didn't understand why they
took
a scenic route at 6/7Pm at night. If you want to explore roads, do it
at
reasonable hours in reasonable weather in reasonable vehicles. I don't
have the venom because I'm just stating my opinion, and I'm not one
who thinks everyone has to think alike.

.

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