Re: Stivers tried to get rescuers attention




"Carmen" <carmensrt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I said they should burn a spare tire. But if you're stuck, you
could
burn ALL your tires. You can always get more. You can't
replace
your kids' and grandkids' lives, though. Douse a tire in
gasoline
and keep throwing wood on.

And where is all this dry wood coming from, in the middle of
winter?

I wonder if the search aircraft are equipped with anything to
detect a
cell
phone. Probably not, but that would be a good idea. That way
even if
they
aren't in range of a cell tower, the search plane could fly over
and
home in
on them via triangulation by signal strength.

1) The cell phone would have to be actively transmitting during
the
same time period the plane was searching on those freqs.
2) True triangulation requires more than one receiving station.
A
single plane wouldn't yield very effective results. In amateur
radio
we call this sort of searching a "fox hunt" and do it for fun.
3) The Stivers took steps to make the RV more visible from the
air, to
no avail. They are reported to have burned things, also to no
avail.
4) You're wasting your time here. There's still meat on the
bones Bo.
They won't quit until fresh meat comes along.

Carmen


Take a pill, Carmen.

You are unwilling to acknowledge any ideas or information that
undermines
your theory these people did absolutely nothing. Why is that?

First of all, if they did some things like we discussed here, GREAT.
However, I saw them interviewed and they said they PRAYED -- nothing
else.
I'm going on what I saw them say. <shrug> So, what's your point and
WTF is
with Carmen's hysteria? Do you both honestly think that people
should not
have a hand in their own fate? That sitting and praying is
appropriate
action? What's you POINT?

Did you read Betsy's post? They did stuff to attract attention. It
didn't work. You're *still* being rotten even after being told they
took actions to help themselves beyond just praying. I can't speak for
Poe, but my point is now that your nominal "They didn't do anything to
help themselves" talking point has been refuted you're still being
nasty. It's not a new thing for you and a few others, and it isn't
likely to stop until someone else comes along for you to sharpen your
claws on.

Carmen

My point always was why that they took that road in the first place.
It was
6:00 pm when they left, it took an hour from Ashland to get to that
turnoff so it was
7:00 pm. The stepfather said he wanted to take the scenic route across
the mountains to the ocean. It's at least 7:00 pm, what can you see at
that time. And we don't even know what the weather forecast was for
that night or the next day. I''m not saying I'm not happy they made it
out
ok, of course I am. But I am questioning why they took that route, and
why they went up a gravel road in an RV. I don't think the original
road is gravel, but I think it's narrow and one lane in places. You want
to do that at
night in a motorhome. What will you get to see?

They wouldn't know until they took it, would they? When they set out
again in the morning they may have been treated to some lovely scenery.
Don't you do things on a chance? I hope so. Life lived completely
safely isn't lived. Why did you take the hideous road to the Lost
Coast? Because it was there perhaps? Because sometimes people think
they're making a perfectly run-of-the-mill decision and find out later
that it was anything but? Because <gasp> people aren't perfect?

Carmen

Plus <LOL> there's always a shitload of irrational apologists to make
excuses for even the most stupid of behaviors.


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