Re: Great True Crime Book - Panzram
- From: "Bo Raxo" <invasions_r_us@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:38:15 GMT
"bessiejunejoadNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxx" <bessiejunejoad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Chocolic wrote:
> > "Bo Raxo" <invasions_r_us@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > > "Chocolic" <chatter448@nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > >> "Bo Raxo" <CheneysHeartIs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > >> > bessiejunejoadNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> So tell me Bo, do you think it was wrong to execute him?
> > >> >
> > >> > Yes, it was wrong to execute him. Even though he could never
> > >> > live
> > >> > in
> > >> > society, even though he himself wanted to be executed, even
> > >> > though
> > >> > while incarcerated he was a danger to other inmates and staff (he
> > >> > was
> > >> > executed for killing a prison employee that supervised a
> > >> > workshop).
> > >> >
> > >> > It's wrong to take a human life, except in immediate
> > >> > self-defense.
> > >> > Limited exceptions in wartime apply. Panzram was a human being,
> > >> > much
> > >> > as we would like to pretend someone so despicable can't possibly
> > >> > be
> > >> > one
> > >> > of us.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Bo Raxo
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> It's okay to kill somebody in self defense or in a war, but not to
> > >> kill somebody as punishment for torture murdering several people
> > >> and
> > >> destroying their families? The DP in those cases is also a form of
> > >> self defense. No?
> > >>
> > >
> > > No. If the guy is locked up in a cell, surrounded by bars, guards,
> > > and
> > > walls, then you don't need to kill him in self-defense.
> > >
> > > If someone breaks in to your house, and you pick up a gun and kill
> > > him,
> > > that's self-defense. If someone breaks in to your house, leaves,
> > > and you
> > > see him walking down the street a week later, you pick up a gun and
> > > kill
> > > him, that's *not* self-defense. Even if you think he might break in
> > > to your
> > > house again, you're committing murder.
> > >
> > > There's your analogy.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > But if that person breaks into your house and murders, rapes and
> > tortures one of your children, that child can't kill in self-defense,
> > much less do anything in self defense. A person that would do that
> > kind of a crime on a helpless *defenseless* baby or child or
> > handicapped person or elderly person, knows that the punishment for
> > that crime could be death. He/she made that choice. And on some of
> > those heinous crimes (Duncan for one), I would personally like to be
> > the one to pull the plug........but I would be very gentle and pull
> > the plug very slowly.
> >
> > Sorry, I have no pity for people like that. None, zilch.
> >
> > Chocolic
>
> Well I with you 100%. Why keep these monsters alive?
>
Why keep the disabled alive? Or the chronically unemployed? Why keep the
elderly alive, they're not contributing anything.
That's the slippery slope when you start deciding some people aren't worthy
of life and should be killed off.
That's even assuming you never kill someone who didn't do the crime.
.
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