Re: Are transsexuals obligated to tell partners? GWEN ARAUJO case
- From: "vivo per lei" <KA1985@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 8 Aug 2005 21:41:10 -0700
Laurey wrote:
> "vivo per lei" <KA1985@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > Laurey wrote:
> > > "vivo per lei" <KA1...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > > Challenge to Laurey:
> > > >
> > > > I challenge you to bring a precedent in which a person has been
> > > > convicted as a "rapist" for the SOLE reason of lying about something
> > > > the sex-partner considered "vital" to know before consenting.
> > >
> > > "1996 -- For at least the fifth time in News of the Weird's nine years,
> a
> > > girl or young woman has been convicted of dressing as a male for the
> purpose
> > > of improving her chances of dating another girl or young woman. A
> > > 17-year-old girl was convicted in Kingsport, Tenn., in September of
> three
> > > counts of sexual assault by fraud against another 17-year-old girl."
> > >
> > >
> http://www.newsoftheweird.com/cgi-bin/search/newsweird.cgi?query=Tennessee&num=1
> >
> > Didn't I tell you guys that she was going to keep her rants about the
> > Tennessee cases, because she has failed and will continue to fail at
> > proving her false accusation against Gwen.
>
> I have not failed. You cannot admit the truth. Two 17-year-olds is not
> "pedophilia". Two 17-year-olds is not "ephebophilia". Two 17-year-olds is
> not "statutory rape" in Tennessee. The rapist was convicted of rape/sexual
> assault by fraud because the victim believed the rapist to be male and gave
> consent for that reason.
You have no understanding of the law whatsoever, and is getting
pathetic. What you fail to see is that in 1996 homosexuality was
illegal in Tennessee. Therefore, even though the girls had consensual
sex with the femboy, the "sex offender" engaged them in what was
considered "illegal activity" under the law. It would have been illegal
regardless, so this is no different than your child sex abuse cases in
wich minors are considered sexually irresponsible. Furthermore, rape is
one form of sexual assault and not all sexual assaults are considered
rape under the law (eg, groping, sexual harrassmemnt, exhibitionism,
incest, obscene phone calls, fondling, unwanted displays of
pornography, are all different forms of sexual assault which do not
equate to rape). Like incest, homosexuality was considered a form of
sexual assault in may states until recently; so for example, if you
have sex with a relative and that person didn't know you were her
relative, but you were aware of this, it would be considered "sexual
assault by fraud" indeed - not rape. The reason this is not rape is
because you were aware that the act you consented to was for sexual
gratification.
Although the states may have a legitimate case for banning incest, the
laws against homosexuality were based on sheer prejudice. And although
having sex with a transsexual is not considered homosexuality
psychologically speaking, under the law it was.
> > Saying that Gwen was was dressing as female for the purpose of
> > improving her chances with guys is egomaniatic and retarded. Gwen was
> > dressing in a way in which she was expressing her true self and it is
> > not her fault that as a result guys found her more attractive. Whether
> > people think she was something false for being herself, doesn't changes
> > the fact.
>
> Irrelevant to the challenge, and with creepy implications to boot. If a
> woman consents to sex with a man because she believes he is her husband when
>
> he is not, is it any less rape if the rapist really believes he is her
> husband?
Stupid comparison. You are oblivious to the fact that Gwen was the same
exact person the criminals consented to sexual gratification.
> > The cases this fool brings are akin to "Guy dresses in
> > female clothes for the purpose of raping women in a bathroom," for
> > example.
>
> No, they are not. I've already explained that the presence of a strange male
> makes women feel less safe, not more safe, than the presence of a strange
> female. To facilitate such a crime, it would make more sense to for the girl
> to dress as the female she was.
>
> BTW, "Guy dresses in female clothes for the purpose of raping women in a
> bathroom" is why women don't want TS/TGs in the women's restroom.
Thanks for confirming what a moron you are. MTF Transsexuals are not
out there to rape women. A law preventing them from using the restroom
will not stop a rapist from doing so!
Combine willful ignorance and paranonoia, and you end saying nonsense
like this.
.
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