Re: Are transsexuals obligated to tell partners? GWEN ARAUJO case

"vivo per lei" <KA1985@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> They started comparing notes. *How come Lida always wanted it from
> behind?* Why wouldn't she let them touch her breasts? Weren't her hands
> kind of rough for a girl? Didn't she always wear something over her
> neck, like maybe she was covering up an Adam's apple? And what about
> that fight with Nicole? Lida fought like -- well, a guy.
> http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/6959159?rnd=1123395192681
>
> Always wanted it from behind! "Always" implies more than one time.

Sure, once with Mike and once with Jose. It may have been more, but not
necessarily.

Speaking of the fight with Nicole, there is a reason men and women generally
do not compete against one another
in sports. Men have significant physical advantages, such as greater
muscle-to-fat ratio and heart and lung capacity. Mental gender doesn't
change that. In the fight, Araujo was a MAN beating up a WOMAN. (This is
further evidence that they truly believed Araujo was biologically female; no
way would they have just stood around and allowed a man to beat up Nicole.)


> Hence, the homo erectuses were happy to get some of the "drug" Gwen was
> giving them, and obviously didn't care about her actual genitals when
> they were having sex.

What you quoted contradicts that. Obviously, she had communicated, "don't
touch me here, don't touch me there", either vocally or by swatting their
hands away, otherwise, they could not have later asked, "why wouldn't she
let us...?"


> C'mon guys, a girl is letting you penetrate her anally, but you can't
> touch her breasts and see her genitals?

I agree men need to aware of such warning signs. We need to raise awareness
of rape by fraud.


> THEY EVEN MADE JOKES ABOUT MICHAEL MADIGSON BEING "TRICKED" BY A TRANNY
> IN SAN FRANCISCO! APPARENTLY MICHAEL ALREADY HAD PAST EXPERIENCES WITH
> TRANNIES.

All the more reason for trannies to stop tricking people.


> NOTICE HOW SOME WELL-EDUCATED PROFESSIONALS THAT HAVE DEALT WITH THIS
> TYPE OF MURDERERS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS CRIMES...NONE HAVE MADE THE
> ASININE MISTAKE OF ACCUSING GWEN OF "RAPE" AGAINST THE "GENTLEMEN,"
> LIKE THE POSTER "LAUREY" SO SHAMELESSLY FLAUNTS

1) Awareness and understanding of male rape, especially male acquaintance
rape, is still very poor, even among well-educated professionals.

2) The emotions, questions, and concerns the professionals state the men
experienced are consistent with those of male rape victims.

3) Anyone who explicitly said "rape" would no doubt receive death threats.


> Most often, the victims are young transgendered women killed by men
> who've had sex with them.

Well, well, well. So most of these cases are not about a man with a tire
iron just waiting for some anonymous TG woman to walk by so he call kill her
for simply "being herself", are they? No, they are about a rapist being
killed by their rape victim.


> Sometimes the killers discover they've been
> misled and freak out. "They feel they had to do what they did," says
> forensic psychologist Karen Franklin, who interviews hate-crime
> perpetrators. "They feel tricked. Their masculinity has been betrayed.
> They've had sex with a man!"

Of course they feel tricked, they have been!


> If Lida wasn't straight,
> did that mean that they weren't straight? And if they weren't straight,
> what were they?

Very, very common in male rape:

"Another problem with society's concept of male rape is the culture's
persistent discomfort with sexuality, homosexuality in particular. Adult
male rape victims consistently indicate that their primary concern is the
implication which the violation has for their sexuality, regardless of
previous sexual experience. 'Does this mean that I'm homosexual?' is
frequently the first question heterosexual male rape survivors ask. Their
belief in the male power image is so great that they think that they would
have been able to deflect the attack if they really wanted to. Because they
were unable to stop their aggressor, they think that on some level, they
wanted it to happen, thereby making them homosexual. This fear may be
compounded by the fact that they, because of normal human sexual response,
became aroused during the assault.

"Men fear that their sexuality will also be questioned by whomever they
disclose the incident to; police, medical staff, their families. The public
erroneously correlates homosexuality with male victimization. This relates
directly to the 'macho' male image. In the public eye, gay males are often
not seen as 'real' men, meaning they are weak, ineffectual, and powerless.
With that disturbing thought process, it is not a far leap to assume that if
a man becomes a victim of a sexual assault, he is a homosexual who was
'asking for it'. This same delineation is made of women who go to a bar,
enter a man's house, or are prostitutes. There is much emphasis to blame the
victim and not the assailant, especially in the realm of male rape."

http://www.hmpartners.org/body.cfm?id=385



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