Re: Police Get Video in Wal-Mart Attack Case





editor@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Netuser wrote:
> >"Spy cameras" are used to help solve crimes all the time.
>
> They don't work well at it.

You're kidding right? Are you really saying that video cameras "don't
work well" in helping to solve crimes?
Surveillance cameras that catch criminals in the act of robbing and
killing convenience store operators?
Surveillance cameras focused on the faces of bank robbers?
Surveillance cameras that can snap the license plate of an illegal
vehicle as it speeds through a tool road?
Surveillance cameras that show the face of someone illegally using an
ATM machine?
And more recently, surveillance cameras that helped to plaster the
faces and subsequent identities of would-be bombers in England all over
the world?

> The LAPD had a spy-camera image of a uniquely-painted van in an armed
> robbery - and never could trace it to
> its owners or the robbers - within the past year.

Based on your logic, we may as well do away with the entire countries'
useless ineffective police forces; given that crime still exists and
all.

> >Cameras, among other things, are used to deter crime - not prevent it.
>
> They don't work at it, do they? How "deterred" are the constant
> glut of bank robbers who hold up banks in full awareness of the places
> being full of cameras in a brightly-lit small place they must be in?

There are many reputable studies that have indicated an effective
reduction in crime due to the implementation or presence of a video
surveillance program - try doing a bit of research;
from: http://www.library.ca.gov/CRB/97/05/crb97-005.html#us-cities
- "According to the survey presented in this report, an increasing
number of U.S. municipalities (mostly outside California) have begun
using CCTV public video surveillance as a law enforcement tool to
monitor public areas, schools, and residential districts."
- "Many European countries now employ public video surveillance as a
primary tool to monitor population movements and to prevent terrorism.
The United Kingdom (UK) in particular relies extensively on video
surveillance as a tool to fight crime and prevent terrorism. According
to some researchers, the camera surveillance systems in the UK are
discouraging and thus preventing crime."
- "Recent British government reports cite CCTV surveillance as a major
reason for declining crime rates: in the small town of Berwick
burglaries fell by 69 percent; in Northhampton overall crime decreased
by 57 percent; and in Glasgow, Scotland crime decreased by 68 percent."
- "In Liverpool, crimes such as shoplifting, prostitution, graffiti,
and other nonviolent crimes have decreased by 25 percent over the last
3 years."

The same report also shows the stupidty and desparation of criminals,
who are fully aware of btu disregard security cameras in favor for the
money they're after, however as the report continues;
"In contrast, a 1991 nationwide study of CCTV surveillance in
convenience stores showed promising results in deterring robberies. A
sample of 81 stores were studied for 1 year before and 1 year after the
installation of state-of-the-art CCTV camera surveillance systems. The
number of robberies decreased by 53 percent after the first year.49
Longer term data is needed for a full evaluation.

A study conducted in Long Island, New York, found that serious crimes,
except rape, dropped after CCTV surveillance systems were installed by
businesses and homeowners in 1993. There were 8,000 burglaries reported
in Long Island in 1994, compared to about 15,000 in 1975. There were
also fewer robberies in 1994 than in 1975. Although other factors such
as changing demographics and community policing had some impact on the
drop in robberies and burglaries, according to one criminologist, "Long
Island is almost like a fortress, and security firms have had a
tremendous impact on crime in this area."

there's plenty more at the site; have fun...

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