Re: Religion of the UK Prime Ministers?

On Aug 4, 9:40 am, David <ds...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 3, 4:40 pm, Windemere <a.windem...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Due to the determination of all the personalities
involved (Henry, Catherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn, Emperor Charles V)
no compromise was possible

It is sometimes stated that Charles V (then Holy Roman Emperor, and,
more importantly, King of Spain) opposed Henry's divorce because he
was aggrieved by the insult offered to his dear aunt Katherine (his
mother's sister).  Considering renaissance politicians in general, and
Charles in particular, that is a very silly thing to think.  Charles
had never met his aunt; she left for England the year before he was
born. She was only 13 at the time. By 1530, she had been living in
England for over 30 years, and was more English than Spanish (despite
the efforts of countless film and television producers to foist on her
a heavy Spanish accent).  And the depth of Charles V's family feeling
can be judged by the fact that he kept his own mother locked up in a
nunnery for nearly 40 years.

It is true that Charles had had his foot on the Pope's mitre since
1527, when his army sacked Rome and imprisoned the Pope -- to be
released on 'good behaviour'. Thereafter the Pope did just as Charles
wished. But it was not Henry's treatment of his aunt that piqued
Charles, but rather his adherence to his enemies, the Italian princes
that resisted his dominion and especially France.  England was beyond
the reach of Charles' armies; but what better way to spite Henry than
by denying him the divorce which was so clearly his primary objective?

It really boils down to the inability of a country to be fully
sovereign when its laws may be dictated by a foreign potentate - in
this case, the Pope. Whether or not (as in this case) the potentate is
the handmaiden of another potentate is not really determinative,
although one might have at least hoped Clement would have been guided
by doctrine rather than the desire to please Charles V.

The incompatability of their allegiance to a foreign potentate with
the rights and duties of British citizenship was the basic reason for
the Catholic disabilities.

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