Re: The office of president in relation to the peerage
- From: "Tom Wilding / Stephen Stillwell" <thomas.wilding@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:08:51 -0700
"Louis Epstein" <le@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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sadbot <electrobot@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: I'm studying a text called the Lesser Key of Solomon dating from the
: 1700s, but compiled from sources as old as the 1500s. In this book
: there is a section describing the demons of hell and their ranks.
: Among these ranks are king and those of the peerage - duke, earl, and
: marquise. But in addition some demons have the title of president.
:
: I am wondering where a president stood in relation to members of the
: peerage in England or France between the 1500's and 1700's. Also I'm
: curious whether they would have had any distinguishing symbols, such
: as the various coronets used by the peerage. It seems to me that the
: status of a president would depend largely on what a person was
: president of, but perhaps there was a time when the term had a more
: general usage?
:
:
: Any insight appreciated! Thanks :)
I recall reading in frustration that Arthur Edward Waite,in his Book
of Ceremonial Magic,had abridged the descriptions of certain demons by
removing the numbers of lesser demons appropriate to their ranks...thus
rendering it impossible to tell the relative status of the ranks!
(The Lesser Key of Solomon was one of his sources,but I think he was
citing another for the descriptions I reference here).
-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
The Wikipedia article ranks the demons and says that it is one of several
rankings given by different sources. The peerage title or president title
does not seem to have any impact on the rankings. As the first 10 of the 72
seem to go in this order: king, duke, prince, marquis, president, duke,
duke, duke, king, president. There appear to be 9 demons who have two
titles: 17 Count/President, 21 Count/President, 22 Count/Prince, 25
Count/President, 27 Marquis/Count, 33 Prince/President, 45 King/Count, 54
Duke/Count, and 61 King/President. This does not seem to help either. I
would guess, from this cursory scan, that the various titles are not
relevant to the ranking structure.
-- Stephen J Stillwell jr
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