Re: Baby Albert
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- Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:42:10 -0700
On Oct 16, 10:23 pm, "Tom Wilding / Stephen Stillwell"
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"CJ Buyers" <susuha...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in messageIn most cases, at the conclusion of a war, the victors usually put
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According to German Law, Master Albert Windsor is not a prince as all
those positions and titles were abolished in 1918, furthermore, Edward
VII
decreed that he and his decendants would no longer pass German titles
that
they held in the British lines of those houses.
Try again - it was not Edward VII but George V. And the point is that
without the approval of the head of the House of Coburg said
renunciation
has no impact.
Even with the assent of the duke that would be insufficient; one only
needs to
look at what happened when Edward (later E VII), Prince of Wales and
Arthur Duke
of Connaught renounced their S-C-G rights - both princes renounced and
their
renunciation, which included the specific retention of their S-C-G and
other
Saxon titles, were registered with the S-C-G parliament, a necessity for
it to
be legal.
But the legal status at the time was war, not the peace conditions you
give as examples for the Duke of Connaught and Prince of Wales.
What is and is not legal during wartime can be very different.
Your last statement is true - but can you point to any occasion where the
administration of titles changed because of war time from what it was in
peace time?- Hide quoted text -
some sort of "absolving" wording into the treaties concluded at the
end of hostilities. The loser more or less accepts any changes
implemented during the war against them, their nationals and their
interests.
There are numerous clauses in the Versailles Treaty which do this.
See, for example, the clause on property that I posted earlier.
We have been told repeatedly here by the lawyers that titles are
property.
.
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