Re: peculiar English royal arms on a book

On 31 Aug., 19:40, Turenne <richard.licht...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 31 Aug, 18:59, Don Aitken <don-ait...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:37:06 -0000, Turenne

<richard.licht...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 31 Aug, 13:16, mj...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On 31 Aug., 11:19, Turenne <richard.licht...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 31 Aug, 10:45, "Frhr.v.Recum" <re...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Turenne :> I think that you mean Westminster School.

I tried the librarian and she replied immediately:
This crest is not ours (Westminster School) - nor does it appear to be
Winchester's either.

any further suggestions ?

FvR

I have checked on the crest, and although there are several instances
of ..'out of an ducal coronet or
a griffin's/eagles head erased two wings expanded' (e.g. Lucas 'Out of
a ducal coronet or, a demi griffin wings expanded gules').... finding
the aforementioned crest 'ducally gorged' is proving more difficult.

Richard

Try Cecily, Duchess of York, mother of Edward IV and Richard III.

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Sorry Michael, I've nothing in my possession with Cecily's crest. I
have these though, which are rather cool:

http://www.northamptonshire.co.uk/guides/fotheringhay/10pic.htm

http://www.northamptonshire.co.uk/guides/fotheringhay/8pic.htm

I'm fairly sure the arms in question are those of St. John's College,
Cambridge. Seehttp://www.joh.cam.ac.uk/

Christ's College (Lady Margaret's other foundation) has very similar
arms, but they don't put them on their website.

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Wow; Yales! You don't see those very often. I can't argue with you
about the crest - great find.

Richard

Indeed - well done Don.

The crest must have some connection with the Beauforts, as it seems to
have also been used by Cecily, Duchess of York: a falcon rising, wings
displayed, ducally gorged or, according to the website of the Richard
III Society.

(The supporters still look more like heraldic antelopes to me, but I
guess the beauty of mythological creatures is that artistic licence
rules!)

MAR

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