Re: 1917 name change

CJ Buyers wrote:

On May 21, 9:51 am, "AGw. (Usenet)"
<bottomless_...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
CJ Buyers wrote:
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On May 21, 2:49 am, William Reitwiesner <wmadd...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

At the time of the decree (1917), he was the reigning Duke of
Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, the dynasty of which George V was a junior member.
The decree, which purported to alter the titles of several Saxe-Coburg
dynasts, was not issued by the Head of the Saxe-Coburg House, and as
such was invalid. It may have some validity in foreign lands, such as
Britain, but not elsewhere.
>>>
On the contrary, it had validity in the entire British Empire and
associated states,
>>
If by "associated states" you meant the Indian and "protected" states,
then yes.

not to mention those territories that accepted British passports.
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I'm not sure what you meant to say here, but what you've actually said
is clearly incorrect. Besides the point that Germany would surely not
have "accepted" a British passport in 1917, a jurisdiction is hardly
bound by the legal instruments of a foreign territory.

Who mentioned Germany in 1917?

Because we're talking about a British proclamation of 1917 that may or may not have extended to certain German individuals resident in Germany?

What Virginia does not accept in respect of British laws is not of any
consequence here. This is about states that *do"*accept ...

States that *do" receive someone on a passport also accept his or her,
name, title, identity therein.

But they don't; see below.

If they do not, fair enough. But they
must actively do something then or some time in the fuure to show that
they do not accept that persons identity. In such an event, it is up
to you or perhaps the previous poster to present evidence that they
did not. Can you do so?

A state accepts a passport because it believes that the person described therein is the person presenting it. What implications that might have obviously depend on the laws of the country concerned. However I'm quite confident that at the very least no British court would consider acceptance by a British immigration official of a foreign passport issued (for example) to "Albert des Roches, duc de Bourbon" as acceptance by the British state of (a) the existence of that title, and (b) the entitlement of that person to use it.

It seems to me that the situation is essentially the same as when the French king used to sign treaties with a British counterpart who included "King of France" amongst his titles. It's recognition that the person concerned *uses* a name or title, but nothing more.


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