Re: How many "Kings of Jerusalem" are there at the present time...


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and who are they?

The numbers I have inserted e.g. 1a come from Francois' site to which
you link.

1) The King of Spain

2b Claim via Marie of Antioch, Charles d'Anjou, the Aragonese/Spanish
Habsburg Kings of the Sicilies, Carlos III (Borbon) of Spain's conquest
of
the Two Sicilies - though how his elder son King Carlos IV of Spain hung
onto the title when the Sicilies passed to his younger brother Ferdinand
I
am
not quite sure..

2) The Duke of Calabria

2b Descended from the Kings of the Two Sicilies? Claim as Spain
above..

3) Archduke Otto of Austria

2a Descended from the Austrian Emperors. Claim via Rene d'Anjou and
the
House of Lorraine. Presumably not via his pre-1740 Habsburg ancestors?

Here one must see: did Maria Theresia use the title? How was it between
1765/1780

The Crusader Kingdom had any number of Queens Regnant - most of whom had
husbands associated with them But they (the QR) held the legitimate
title -- Melisende (Fulk), Sibyl (Guy), Isabel (Conrad, Henri), Maria
(John), Isabel II (Frederick).

This tradition should have meant that Maria Theresia should have had no
problem with using the title - the question would be whether she used the
feminine or masculine form - remembering that MT was King (not Queen) of
Hungary.

-- Stephen J Stillwell jr

In those days one used male titles, when Latin was used. To be
translated by .., here Queen or King?

No - MT was referred to with feminine titles excepting in Hungary were the
court of nobles insisted on a male monarch - so a male she was in that
realm.

This court, one has never heard of it!

Perhaps you should rather ask a præceptor of Latin of those days!

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