Re: Premier Baron and creation dates



On 2006-04-12, Al <alcohol@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
<<The Barony of le Despencer
has been unsubmerged and held by a male only from 1763-1781 and
1788-1831; at both times, the Baronies of de Ros and Mowbray were
either abeyant, submerged, or held by a female, and so both holders
(Sir Francis Dashwood, Bt. and Sir Thomas Stapleton, Bt.) must have
been Premier Barons during their tenure. >>

However I've been told that Stourton was the first baron to give homage
at the coronations 1788-31 and that he was the first on the peerage
roll during that period. Can someone confirm who was first on the roll
during that period because if it wasn't Le Despencer why not????

Really? Catton's English Peerage of 1790 (online) makes the first baron Lord
Clifford and Vesci (1298 and 1269 respectively), followed by Lord le Despencer
(1295). Stourton (1448) is much further down. Unless Stourton had some royal
grant of artificial precedence, I don't see how this could be.

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Chris Hoess
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