Re: Scottish, uhm... uuh... what should we call this?

On 9 Jun 2008 12:02:07 GMT, "John F. Eldredge" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:12:50 +0100, Richard Gadsden wrote:
Joe Zeff wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:18:02 +0200, Jasper Janssen wrote:

Ah. AFAIK jelly.uk is more along the jello lines, and jelly.us is more
closely approximated by jam.uk. But that's just my layman's
understanding, you understand.

That was my understanding too, but I wasn't sure. However, since in
.us, jelly is clear and jam has fruit in it, how do you distinguish
between the two. (Note that we also have preserves here, which are
mostly fruit with a syrup or semi-liquid juice.)

If you mean that one has fruit in the ingredients list but is
homogenised, while the other has identifiable bits of fruit in it, then
the answer is that we don't, both of those are jam. A manufacturer that
makes both might describe jelly.us as something like smooth jam, but you
could as easily see two jars of strawberry jam side-by-side on the shop
shelf, and one would be jelly.us and the other jam.us.

If you meant that jelly doesn't have any fruit in, just sugar and
artificial flavourings, then that's not allowed to be sold as jam, or a
preserve, as there is a 30% fruit minimum.

The first case is the true one (US jelly is made with filtered fruit
juice, so that you have the flavor and color, but not solid bits).

In french, that's a "gelee" instead of a "confiture", and in Dutch it's a
"Gelei" instead of "Jam". UK seems to be fairly unique in describing them
both with the same word -- but the US is fairly unique in that they seem
to prefer jellies to jams.

Jasper
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