Re: Heads-up: Possible Televisual Recovery

Zebee Johnstone <zebeej@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

Who is going to maintain the road they aren't living next to?

All roads run next to land; all land has an owner. If you know of any
land that hasn't an owner, do let me know--I'd like to start the
People's Republic of Bobbiana.

And I'd be quite happy if there were simply a rule that roads built
to spec be provided by those living alongside said roads, leaving the
details of how up to the landowners. Fine those who don't maintain
the roads or don't maintain them to spec; make the fines steep enough
that it's not worth not doing.

OK. Let us say the average house has oh.. 100 foot frontage. Tell
me, how much does 100 foot of single lane each way road suitable for
trucks cost to build and maintain?

I've heard something like $1-2 million per mile, so let's divide $2
million by 52.8: $37,879. In other words, a fraction of the value of
the typical home. And it will last for at the least a decade and a
half, probably more.

Of course it does depend, so let us say, seeing as this is about the
USA, that it is in an area with snow.

So you have wild temperature differentials, and lots of problem with
water getting into the seal.

My parents have lived in the same house, in Colorado, at 6,000 feet,
getting snow every year--and it's the same road they had when they moved
in 14 years ago.

People find they can't afford it.

If one cannot afford it, should one be a landowner? _Someone_ has to
afford it, otherwise taxation couldn't afford it.

Somwhere there's this thing that isn't, apparently, a government, that
can manage to decide on and levy large fines.

I'm not an anarchist; I don't want to eliminate the government. I just
want to eliminate the all-encompassing State wherever possible and
feasible.

There's also something that is not, apparently, a government that can
inspect the road that's been built or while it is being built and
certify the result. And can check maintenance on it. Or is
monitoring the companies that might do this work so there isn't any of
this corruption stuff. Which will happen: when the NSW state
government allowed self-certification of buildings, the number of
violations jumped dramatically, the lawsuits are continuing as we
speak.

Nowhere do I advocate self-inspection; keeping people honest is an
appropriate function of the State.

Meanwhile of course the rich, not being stupid, are in communities
where trucks aren't allowed.

So either the middle class pick up this huge bill, or else commerce in
the country stops, as the goods can't move around.

Commerce will never stop; there's too much coin to be made from it. And
goods shouldn't travel by truck over large distances anyway: they should
travel by train over any distance from intercity or larger, and should
only be loaded onto trucks to go from the rail depot to the store.

Of course some people reckon it is a lot easier if the cost burden is
shared and get this bright idea that the road costs are averaged over
all users and....

And then some people get the bright idea that it'd be easier to purchase
a sports stadium by getting everyone, all the users thereof and everyone
_elsse_ too, to pay for it. And then some people get the bright idea
that it makes sense to tax the milk of the poor to pay for museums for
the rich. And then some people get the bright idea that property owners
don't have the right to decide what behaviour is allowed on their
property or not. And then one has the modern State.

--
It is a source of much embarassment to me that I was distracted
by a combination of Usenet, Western European history, and writing
instead of wine, women and song. --Matt McLeod
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