Re: Religion anti-advocacy: I'm going to Hell, but all the cool people are there anyway.

On 2007-09-07, Richard Bos <raltbos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
abuse@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

On 2007-09-06, The Flying Guinea Pig <qnaprfjvgupebjf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
...
Or think of it this way: Deity's writing a book. Humans are the
characters in that book. The writer puts down some things (plot
points?) and the characters react to them in ways defined by their
personalities. This provides an interesting (if silly) solution to the
free will vs. predestination problem that crops up when you have an
omnipotent deity: The characters have free will *except* when the
writer's directly writing their actions.

Errmm... being omnscient[0], the writer already knows the content
of the entire book down to the last punctuation mark. Including
every action of every character. Therefore the skein of your life's
been woven an infinity ago and you might as well relax and enjoy it.
There is no free will.

That is a very Newtonian-Cartesian view of infinity. Are you sure that,
if God exists, it's not more likely that he is Einsteinian, Quantum, and
then some?

Surely, all of the above, and also The Singularity? Obviously, an
omni-everything deity is an excession so far out of context that
any discussion is irrelevant. (Except possibly its internal dialogue.)

Xtian God, OTOH... most of His problems stem from the decision
to make Christ's message more acceptable to 2000yo slaves and goat
herders by bolting it to the God of Old Testament. You know, the
all-merciful guy who tells his followers to sacrifice their kids
because he bet Satan he could, after they had one too many at the
local watering hole. Who's always known the outcome of every event
since Big Bang yet claims there is wave function and What You Do
Matters.

He is the God of Compatibility Backwards, Lying Vendors, and Incorrect
Documentation. The God of The Monestary, IOW.

Dima

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