Re: Toys that are 1) Shiny, 2) World's Largest, and 3) Broken

In Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:55:02 +1000, TimC (TimC
<tconnors@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>) in hoc locus scripsit:

> On 2005-08-15, Mike Andrews (aka Bruce)
> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>> Norman L. DeForest <af380@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 15 Aug 2005, Mike Andrews wrote:
>>
>>>> "Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <spamtrap@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> > While I've always trusted the rule "Never trust a device with moving
>>>> > parts."
>>>>
>>>> Well, then we're screwed. We depend on the electrons moving.
>>
>>> ... And doesn't *all* matter (and, therefore, *all* devices)
>>> contain moving electrons?
>>
>> No. Proton and neutron beams pretty much don't contain moving e-, and
>> really, _really_ good insulators are pretty shy of moving e-, too.
>
> Well, they contain moving protons and neutrons, and hence we can't
> trust them (insulators aside).

Um, were we including electron orbits and spin in this discussion?

Just wanted to check.

It begins to look like the only trustworthy matter is H at 0K, and
quantum implies that not even that...

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