Re: OT/If I Have XP SP2...Is there any "real" need to install SP3?




"Daddy" <daddy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Ben Myers wrote:
Daddy wrote:
RnR wrote:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:30:16 -0700 (PDT), "William R. Walsh"
<wm_walsh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi!

Really? Tell that to the people who were left with unbootable
computers after the SP3 update. This happened to people who
had primarily HP Desktops
That was quite some time ago, and I believe fixes have since been
delivered.

You highlighted the problem when you said "HP Desktops". (I hate most
of their computer hardware with a passion.) HP certainly loves their
preloaded images and crapware. It's not hard to believe (with regard
to the plethora of system models they have) that someone said "oh look
here's a good idea to save us the trouble of producing a separate
image for each system" when it wasn't such a good idea. SP3 was *not*
the problem--someone's stupidity and laziness was.

I don't mean to sound unapologetic or harsh, but people running the
factory installed software on their computer almost have it coming.
Install it yourself and be just that much more certain that it is done
right--and that only what you want to have is there.

Microsoft's own service pack release notes say to turn off (and quite
possibly to also update) any anti-virus software prior to applying the
Service Pack. Now who reads that? :-)

The following questions should always be asked before an upgrade of
this magnitude is performed:

1. Do I have time to troubleshoot this if it doesn't work?
2. Do I have a backup of my information or another computer to work
with if there is a problem?
3. Does this have to happen right now? (In the case of SP3, that
answer is presently "no".)

William

The reason why I try to avoid MS updates with a passion. And anyone
tells me how vunerable I am for doing this will just make me laugh
(not directed at you).

Lol...

The reason you avoid Microsoft updates is because you don't know how to
install them, don't know how or don't want to operate your computer in a
supported manner, don't know how to maintain your computer, and/or don't
know how to keep malware away. These are the things that cause updates
to damage a computer.

As for how vulnerable your computer is without the updates...who cares?
It's not my data that's at risk.

Daddy

Sheesh! Acting out your role as Daddy and scolding a child, or what?

There are two sides to the Windows Update controversy here.

One is that Microsoft has had a lousy track record putting out patches
and updates that mess up a system, and then, Whoops! They put out a
correction. True fact. Happened all too often in the early days of XP.

The other side is that Microsoft has tried to get better at this patch
process and actually succeeded, although people who update regularly get
harrassed again and again to install Windows Genuine Advantage. Heavens!
There may be a software pirate among us!

Whether to update or not all depends on how much one trusts Microsoft's
technical knowhow and how much personal information is at stake.

... Ben Myers

My Dimension 4500 is almost nine years old and has received 341 updates
with no problems whatsoever. And I have Windows Genuine Advantage, which
has never bugged me about anything.

No one is saying that Microsoft Update is perfect. But when people
complain about it in newsgroups and online forums, most of the time
they're the author of their own troubles, not Microsoft.

In computing, as in life, there are lots of things you don't like. (Who's
idea was the Alternative Minimum Tax?) But as any Daddy knows, you can't
shirk your responsibilities by blaming your troubles on everyone else.

Daddy

The Alternative Minimum Tax law was put into effect when people making
$100,000.00 or more were considered to be the very wealthy. Many things have
happened since the ATM was put into place. Now too many people are getting
caught within the ATM parameters and are getting screwed by the IRS. That
part of the tax code should have been modified many years ago.

Leigh


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