Re: Making the case for Vista 64



William R. Walsh wrote:
Hi!

On what do you base this?

It can be true. There are computer sellers, motherboard makers, chipset
companies and hardware assemblers who don't provide the 64-bit drivers that
are needed to make their hardware function under a 64-bit Windows operating
system. (Note that I said a "64-bit Windows operating system". This is *not*
Vista specific. It may not even be Windows specific.) I saw a Lenovo
notebook that ran Vista 64-bit without an issue, if you didn't mind not
having sound, the modem and a few other things.

Of course it CAN be. But go back and reread Journey's statement. He said "There will be more driver and compatibilty problems with Vista 64."
That is a statement of fact with nothing to back it up with.

The point that I've been making all along and that everyone but Ben missed is that Vista 64 is viable operating system for someone with a NEW, POWERFUL computer. My findings, based on plenty of pre-purchase research, is that you're going to have a hard time finding NEW hardware that doesn't have Vista 64 drivers.

On the other side of the coin, there are systems that run perfectly with a
64-bit OS. I've seen both.

And the point there? I've seen systems that don't run XP (32 or 64 bit) properly, either.

If you want to run 64-bit Windows (or any 64-bit OS), then you would do well
to make sure that you know what you're buying and that it will work when you
get it all together.

If you want to run any operating system then you would do well to follow that advice.

At least a few Windows XP 32-bit drivers work fine under 32-bit Vista. I
have a system with a VIA chipset that was running Vista on the integrated
video. Vista Business had no driver and neither did VIA. So I just installed
the XP driver and it worked. I would have left it that way, but I wanted to
see what all the eye candy looked like--so I popped in an nVidia AGP card
that met the requirements.

I had zero problems with drivers and all of my programs run flawlessly.

On the drivers front, you are fortunate. You probably also made an informed
selection of hardware.

Again. There's nothing fortunate about it. I made an informed choice of all hardware and did enough research to know what I would need to replace. For the record that meant replacing an 8 year old scanner and upgrading to Quickbooks 2008. The Quickbooks upgrade was because of Vista, not because I was going 64 bit.

My Dell 3100cn printer had Vista 64 drivers on the Dell site and the aging but still functional Dell 1700 laser printer had drivers supplied by Microsoft.

I'm not surprised to hear that your 32-bit programs run fine. There are some
things that don't work, but these are usually things that try to plug into
core system programs...things like shell enhancements and such. (A lot of
these can be made to work, as Microsoft seemingly did provide a 32-bit
Explorer and Internet Explorer if they were needed or desired. That is true
of XP64; I don't know about Vista64.)

There are indeed two version of Internet Explorer in Vista 64.

And I would suggest you do a bit of reading in the Mac forums. There a
lot of compatibility issues with Leopard right now that have users very
unhappy. Many would like the same option that MS is giving users...to
buy the previous operating system.

I can't say that I agree. I did stay away from Leopard in production use
until 10.5.1 came out, and 10.5.2 is even better. However, I saw a great
number of Mac OS X programs (some of them not very new, and some of them not
recommended for use under Leopard) that made the transition without incident
on a wide variety of Apple hardware.

What type of production are we discussing here? Adobe's applications, especially InDesign can be very wonky on Leopard and running anything earlier than CS3 is complete crap shoot.

No matter what it is, there will always be someone who has a problem with
their computer hardware and software choice.

On that point we can most definitely agree!

Bob
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