Re: Any thoughts on buying a refurbished GTX-260...maybe?

The video cards that share memory with the motherboard are very cheaply made. In
general, they are little better in performance than graphics built into the
motherboard chipset, at least with Intel chipsets. Not sure about VIA chipset
motherboards with on-board graphics, but VIA is respectable, much more so than
SiS for motherboard chips. The MSI card is to be avoided if you want any decent
performance at all... Ben Myers

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:33:39 GMT, newton <hasbr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Ben Myers <ben_myers_spam_me_not@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:c1ped31umrm8an4fd0t1bse676a38aato8@xxxxxxx:

The mobo chipset is a Via 880 Pro/Ultra and the articles I was reading
about the chipset were old. Support for that chipset was added in a
kernel for at least the Ubuntu distro.

I'll give it a shot - www.anandtech.com did a review on the board quite
extensively and found it to be a decent board for the money and a good
solution if one wants to use their older parts. They compared the DDR2 v
DDR and found only a slight difference between a DDR 400 and a DDR2 533
for example and found that on that board AGP slightly outperformed the
PCI-E side because PCI-E is limited to 4x where AGP is 8x. In any event
I will not be buying a new video card soon as I will continue using my
PCI ATI card - but I did find an interesting MSI card with 128MB on board
that will share memory with the mobo if you allow it up to 512MB for
$30.00.

This setup sounds like it will work well for me, as the board supports
Core-Duo as well if I choose to upgrade the CPU later.

thanks for the help.

cya

My distributor keeps pushing Asrock boards, telling me that they are
made by Foxconn, the same company that manufactures many of the
Intel-branded boards. (I keep buying Intel brand boards, because my
customers won't settle for less.) Not sure what the motherboard
chipset is on the Asrock board, but I would be careful with any
non-Intel chipset board. And that may be what the Linux crowd is
saying. Or maybe they are saying that the board is too new to have
chipset drivers, which happens regularly with new chipsets in
motherboards, on graphics cards, on wireless cards, etc... Ben Myers

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:04:40 GMT, newton <hasbr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Ben Myers <ben_myers_spam_me_not@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:bj2ed35a7qdvfiieb72i6abrosoh4tee7p@xxxxxxx:

Careful there! If a motherboard supports both DDR and DDR2, it is
likely to be one designed and manufactured by PC Chips, one of its
no-name surrogates, or some other manufacturer of really poor
quality motherboards with low performance chipsets (e.g. SiS)... Ben
Myers

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:13:56 GMT, newton <hasbr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks for the info. I looked around a bit and found a new
barebones system that should work perfect for now and into the
future. The mobo supports both SATA and IDE. Comes with an Intel
Dual Core 2.8Ghz and also supports DDR and DDR2 so I will not need
to buy new memory just at this moment (it will support DDR333/400 -
which I have in the system) and it has an 8x AGP slot - all for
$169 plus shipping.

cya!

<snip>
Did not know there were problems with PC Chips (read reviews at NewEgg
- only had an overall 43% rating). For $6.00 more I can have the
motherboard changed to an ASRock 775Dual-VSTA which provides PCI-E and
AGP plus support for DDR & DDR2. Been reading reviews and seems
favorable except for Linux users.

thoughts on ASRock? I have tried Vista and will not be leaving XP for
sometime to come - though the board is supposed to be Vista ready. It
is also WHQL certified. I think this might be a better board.

thanks

.

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