Re: dell vista upgrade license?

On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 09:56:33 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


"RnR" wrote in message news:a54n13plbmmaah1380f3gk14eaea1bch4p@xxxxxxxxxx
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 08:36:33 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


"RnR" wrote in message news:3iqm139ibkbjtlt5dpk6ptglb9trmhasfj@xxxxxxxxxx
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 19:25:53 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority have one, or maybe two. I
have
no statistics to back that up. Keep in mind, though, that if you're
here,
you're likely not average.

I know the vast majority of my kid's friends just have one. Some have
two
(a laptop). Forcing a 'any computer in the household' license on
everyone
would not be cost effective.

That would be like forcing a 'all license plates in the house' fee and
making it four times the normal cost. How many people have four cars?

I do but I disagree. I don't consider license plates and licensing
fees the same thing. The fees for license plates are not for a profit
but really a tax where as licensing fees are really for a profit. So
should I use 2 of the same software (buy one and copy it once) I
shouldn't have to pay 2x it's selling price to use both in my mind to
make it of legal use. It doesn't cost the mfg 2x in this case nor
it's debatable whether they would have made 2 sales of this software
from me (perhaps only one anyway). I therefore think a happy medium
of 1.x would be a better fit to cover costs and allow a volume
license. Of course the added sales price is an arbitrary number but
2x sounds unreasonable to me.

It's a fact of life that software is going to be copied so mfg/authors
might as well try to make a profit based on this principle (like the
music / movie industry is realizing) but in a reasonable sense. I
also think it's funny how people here argue with me about what is
legal and yet I read others who don't even know if their useage is
legal or not (dual booting comes to mind). And others who claim to
have read the EULA but still aren't 100% certain about what is or
isn't legal. So I think it's best to use some common sense and price
the wares according to reality.

It is people like you that have forced WGA and activation on the rest of
us.
The companies have to spend extraordinary amounts of money trying to
prevent
people that 'just don't agree' from stealing their software.

Let's face it. You can rationalize theft. I can't. I'm done.


Years ago they thought recording a tv show was theft too until they
saw reality. I don't understand why I can't pay more than 1.x the
purchase price, to be allowed to make copies of a software X times to
make it legal for home use? The reality is people are going to copy
software anyway so why not price it in a way to call it legal?

Last, I guess you always made sure it was legal before you zeroxed a
any part of a book or magazine? Reality and common sense is all I'm
asking for.

OK, I have to respond one more time. Recording TV is legal under the 'fair
use' of a copyright. Recording it to play back for profit is, of course, no
legal.

Feel free to use whatever analogies let you rationalize it. Still wrong.

They DO price it to make it legal. Buy a Vista 3-pack.

As to Vista, that's good but I'm saying it should be standard across
all software without worrying if one is legal or not.

Let me say it this way: I'm NOT saying that I am or am not in
violation of the EULA (many can't understand it anyway) but what I am
saying is a standard EULA needs to be drafted to allow X copies at
home to become legal use so you don't have to install, uninstall and
reinstall a software inorder to use it across X home pc's. And what I
am NOT saying is to make copies of purchased software WITHOUT paying
an add'l price to do so at the time of purchase for the first one. If
you want to call this illegal because it violates the EULA, no problem
but that's how I feel it should read. And I hope that if adopted, the
price for the add'l copies is not 2x 3x, etc.. but rather 1.x but this
is an arbitrary number which the market place will establish.
.

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