Re: Will Dell OEM Vista install on another Dell PC?

"PeterD" <peter2@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:50:23 GMT, "Christopher Muto"
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"PeterD" <peter2@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:33:25 -0400, "Jaycob" <jayc@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Obviously i dont condone piracy ;)"
Me either ;) ;) But I also upgrade software to my old computer from
my
new discs to keep work I do on one interchangeable with the other(this
includes operating systems as rare as that happens since it takes 5
years
for MS to come up with useable ones, god knows I'm still looking for my
refund for Windows ME LOL). To be honest I thought Steve W. and PeterD
were
kidding in they're responses but I guess not.. A bit over the top if
you
ask me, they probably never downloaded from napster or limewire either
;)


Very serious...

Right, I've never downloaded from Napster or Limewire!

The bottom line is that I write both software and books for a living.
What was suggested was stealing, plain and simple. There is no
justification for doing that, and if one wants to 'upgrade' their
computers, they can buy upgrades from the local store, or from Dell
(who, IIRC, offer a discount to Dell owners).


you are making assumptions that may not be true.
i don't assume the worst in people.
perhaps he wants to see how good or how miserable it runs on a particular
machine before he wastes his money on it only to find that he not only
wasted his time with misleading promises of compatibility but also wasted
his cash (since no store allows returns of opened software as far as i
know).

He can see that on the computer he bought with Vista. Besides, he
already agreed NOT to do this... So he agrees to one thing, does
another, and tries to justify violating his original license
agreement...

if i had any interest in vista i certainly would test a copy of it
before purchasing it for upgrading an entire office full of machines.

He has a 'test' copy of vista, on a computer. What he wanted to do was
'upgrade' all his other computers.

i
think all the talk about piracy is a waste of time and know that the
security measures by software companies is definitely a waste of time for
honest people like myself. most people are honest.

I agree, *most* people are honest. But the few bad apples, so to
speak, have really messed things up for the reamining honest majority.
The OP is in the 'bad apple' category.

if that wasn't the case
then there would be rampant crime in all aspects of life. but if it works
for you, then go ahead and assume the worst in others. if you just wanted
to caution him that his license does not permit multiple installations or
some similar warning (assuming that you even know what sort of license he
has) then fine,

He already knows that. He read the license agreement, agreed to the
terms. The OP is not an innocent victim, he is the victimizer and the
victims are you and me, we end up putting up with higher prices,
bloated 'protection' against the likes of him, all so he can get a
free ride.

but you just plainly called a total stranger a thief. i
find that absurd.

OK. But since he started by posting that he wanted to steal software,
I tend to think there is little defense to his being considered a
thief.


i hear you, but then again i understand the technical issues here regarding
the license. i doubt that most or even a small minority of people do.
everyone agrees to the license presented at time of installation because you
have to agree in order to proceed. i have never seen anyone actually read
it. i understand that you are highly sensitive to the software piracy issue
but instead of jumping down this guys throat you could have used this as an
opportunity to educate him about the specifics of the license that comes
with dell provided microsoft oem software. if he is a thief then calling
him a thief isn't going to put him on the straight and narrow. however
explaining what he bought and how it can legally be used might get him
thinking. however if microsoft with all its wealth, technology, and
creative minds can't do this effectively and efficiently then it is no
surprise that people out there don't think twice about it and ask such
questions. the microsoft license is a novel written by lawyers for lawyers,
subject to interpretation and certainly not intended for a layperson to
understand. if they could state their sentiment clearly then there would be
no confusion about how the product can and can not be used and that would
probably have more impact on stoping piracy than all the copy protection
schemes that are not only a nuisance but virtually all able to be broken.


.

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