Re: OT: Microsoft free houselhold [Was: Re: OT PING ROSE and SYLVIA]
- From: Alex <akfromak@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:28:56 -0500
On Dec 9, 1:24 am, Alex <akfro...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I too, have been learning a bit about web design, although I'm certainly
not an expert at this point. I took a quick peek at the source code.
Have you considered browser sniffing and using different style sheets
for different browsers, rather than trying to adapt a single style for
Ay yi yi, Alex, I *did* try that -- one of those "If/then" scripts, do
you mean? For whatever reason, it didn't seem to work for me. I'm
*still* learning, hope to get it right *one* of these days! My
daughter's website, like life itself, is a *constant* work in
progress, y'know! :-)
Oh yeah. A while back, I purchased a web hosting package, with the
intent on starting a web site. So far, its been pretty much a learning
platform for me, no actual site yet. I use it mainly for working
through example code, etc. I want to focus on PHP & MySQL, so I wanted
a real world environment to test in, as different code choices can have
a significant impact on performance.
For my last birthday, Deb started my "Web Library" for me, with books on
through them, with the emphasis on *slowly*.
Thats the most frustrating part about MS, for me. I used to be able to
read through a service manual, set of instructions, specifications,
whatever, and be able to actually *recall* and *use* the information easily.
These days, while I do understand what I'm reading, *while I'm reading
it*, recalling it is no longer quite so easy. Fortunately, I do most of
my work on the Linux box, and I use Quanta Plus for web work. It offers
auto-completion, which benefits me in two ways.
The first is that it serves as a reminder, as to the proper syntax.
The other is that it helps reduce keystrokes, which, with my hands
getting the way they are, is a big help.
Slowly but surely, he gains his converts as he traverses the land,
bringing computers to all the good boys and girls -- oh wait,
nevermind, that's Santa. };-> But yeah, Dennis is an Open Source Guy
to the bone. He built one for Tamara, not a dual system, but two
separate hard drives connected to the same machine -- Mac OSX and
Linux. Me, I just run my Mac, but when I use Dennis's computer, I use
People seem to think it's hard -- maybe building apps is hard, but the
browsers behave like browsers, T-bird gets email, and oh man, do I
*love* Open Office! :-) There's even a Power Point like program
included, and it's ALL FREE!
Compiling apps *can* get tricky, sometimes. But these days, there isn't
really much need for the average Joe User to do so, unless they want to
test the latest, bleeding edge version of an app.
Recently, I installed Ubuntu Linux, after reading all the rave reviews
about it. I have to say that it was, by far, the easiest install I've
done. They've done quite a bit, IMO, to advance the state of desktop Linux.
Stuff "just works". The days of having to manually tweak configuration
files to get something to work are gone, although the capability is
still there, for the power user who wants to get into the guts of it.
Oh, and the config files are simple text files, no registry nightmare to
deal with, you can edit them with a basic text editor. ;-)
Aside from all the applications that are distributed with or available,
as you said, for free, the feature I like the *most* is that the
updating mechanism handles not only the operating system, but *all* of
the installed apps, as well. You have *one source* for all updates, not
only security updates, but new versions of the apps, as well.
(My guess is that so many folks are stuck on Microsoft when it comes
to business, that so many are still using MS products at home in order
to ensure proper synching with their work systems -- because you
*know* their proprietary nonsense includes stuff deliberately intended
to hoze up anything coming in from a different set-up! =:o)
You don't know how true that is. Why do you think that MS manages to
"need" to change the file format with each new release of MS Office?
Why do you think that they are resisting/refusing, kicking and
screaming, to provide support for the Open Document Format? To drive
even more sales of MS Office, of course.
By setting the default format to their new one, they know that most
users are not going to bother changing the default, they are just going
to hit 'Save'. Then, the user sends a document to a business partner,
supplier, whatever, who doesn't have the new version.
The receiver can't open it, their old version doesn't know about the new
format. So, they ask the sender if they can send it in the old format.
This may work for a bit, until they get tired of not being able to deal
with the new format, that "everyone else is using", and finally bite the
bullet and shell out for the new version. Cha-ching! Wash, rinse,
repeat every few years.
LOL -- I had to go into the garage (think Monster Garage, that's
pretty much what it looks like out there!) to even find a Windoze
machine with Internet "Exploder" installed to check the look.
Here is a site that might be of some help. You submit the URL of your
website, and it will generate screen shots of various browsers and
versions, under Linux, Win, and Mac. I haven't used it myself yet, but
it looks like a cool service.
Good to "see" you too Alex, and happy holidays to you and your
And to you and yours, as well.
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