Re: MS & Lupus
- From: "Kami" <kamesha@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:46:53 -0700
Thanks Roarke!
It is my Family Practice Dr that is thinking Lupus and primarily based
on the ANA results. I am going to get my neuro in on it if the test results
are the same this time around. My neuro is 100 miles away and I usually
only see her once a year (at least that is how lucky I have been so far!).
Thanks for all you knowledge!
Smiles!
Kami
"Roarke" <roarke.unionatomgrad@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:a2pPe.198$s4.152@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hieee, yes this is the ANA test, which is a test for autoimmunity to
> histones which help hold DNA together. As example, many lupus suffers are
> unusually sensitive to UV light, this being due to normal cell damage
> caused
> to everyone by UV, in lupus sufferers they suffer no more damage, but an
> autoimmune reaction occurs to the cellular products that get spilled out.
> A
> positive ANA test can occur with lots of conditions and is by no means
> diagnostic with Lupus in any way but is just an indicator. Like MS, lupus
> is highly variable between patients, there's no two cases identical in
> either condition. I'd suggest that the fact your neuro is considering
> lupus
> shows he's bright and has an open mind, not that this should be taken
> badly
> or read more into it than there is. Nor does it mean you have both, it's
> precautionary.
>
> I have heard that aching joints in MS can be caused by tensions caused by
> muscle spasms and spasticity, but this too is a sx in lupus with a
> different
> cause. Be reassured you have a bright neuro who's running sensible tests
> instead of being pig-headed and tunnel visioned !
>
> Incidently the "lupus arthritis" from lupus is very different to osteo
> arthritis and does not usually lead to the same long term damage.
>
> Roarke
>
> "Kami" <kamesha@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:11gpmfns2ullpca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> I am not aware of one either. I was just inquiring if anyone was given
>> the diagnosis of Lupus on top of MS. I was diagnosed with MS 13 years
>> ago and after an appointment with my family practice doctor regarding
>> my joint pain and general fatigue issues he ran some blood work to rule
>> out arthritis he also ran an ANA test. It turns out that it was elevated
>> and
>> he wants to run it again soon.
>>
>> I am concerned but my research didn't show this to be typical or even
>> something that is somewhat possible. You may know better, I am just a
>> person scared of having something just as bad if not worse on top of MS.
>>
>> Any information you have would be appreciated.
>>
>> Smiles!
>> Kami
>>
>> "Roarke" <roarke.unionatomgrad@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:Zu4Pe.87$p4.43@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Hi yes this is apparently a common early misdiagnosis and a copier of
>> > early
>> > MS sx. In some cases MS can indeed mimic lupus and vice versa.
> There's
>> > many varients of lupus including a neurological version that specially
> can
>> > look like early MS. The pains in joints, fingers, knees etc is an
>> > enigma,
>> > it can indicate lupus in which there is lupus-type arthritis without
>> > the
>> > long term damage normal osteo arthritis gives, but it can also be a
> result
>> > of the strain normal MS muscle spasticity and stiffness give. As far
> as
>> > I
>> > know there's no distinct test for either MS or Lupus SLE but I'd be
>> > glad
>> > to
>> > hear otherwise.
>> >
>> > Can you let me know what this test is ??
>> >
>> > Roarke
>> >
>> > "Kami" <kamesha@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news:11gjpj2tog9ap0a@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> Hi All, hope your weekend was nice!
>> >>
>> >> I night have asked this before and if I did forgive that duplication,
>> >> I have the memory of a colander! Anyway, I am about to have my
>> >> repeat blood test to she if it is still elevated to indicate Lupus and
> I
>> >> want to be prepared. The only reason I am worried is because my
>> >> knees and finger joints are almost always in pain with I get up from
>> >> rest of any kind. They checked for arthritis (big family history) but
>> >> it was negative. This has me very worried!!
>> >>
>> >> Any experience/advice would be appreciated!
>> >>
>> >> Smiles!
>> >> Kami
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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