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Julie Bove beweerde :
"Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote in message news:gZadnZF9t4k3rz7SnZ2dnUVZ8rKdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Op 4-5-2012, heeft Julie Bove verondersteld :
"Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote in message news:doWdnfR8m5_DMD_SnZ2dnUVZ8oudnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Is this post an example of you snipping what's not relevant?

Bessie: the whole of this post is relevant. It is ONE BIG SIGH.
Venting is a great way
To live an other day

:-)
Maya
PS, I still dont know if Julies father haa (or had) chronic pancreatitis too...

I know there are two types. I don't remember the difference. He had the kind that you tend to get just once but he has to take meds for it for the rest of his life.
Me too (meds for it the rest of my life I mean). But: "once"?? I had multiple painattacks. Over about 30 years. Each attack about 2-3 days long.


In case you hadn't noticed, Bessie doesn't like me and likes to pick at everything I do.

O gosh, o dear!

M.

I was not living here at the time he was in the hospital. We were living on Staten Island. He and my mom came to visit. We had eaten at a new restaurant. The food was excellent! The owner said business was slow and a lot of food was going to go to waste so he just kept bringing more and more food out for us to eat for free. My dad made a right pig out of himself! So it came as no surprise to any of us when he complained the next day that his stomach hurt.

But then things got worse. He said he was constipated. I gave him a sugar free lollipop that my daughter had, thinking this would get things going. I didn't realize that he helped himself to a LOT more of them. He has always been very sensitive to sorbitol and really shouldn't have it. This has been many years back now so I may not have all of the facts. But I think he also took additional laxative. So then he had the opposite problem. He was very ill.

The next night we went out to dinner at another place. When the waitress brought his food he snapped at her in a loud voice, "I don't want it! Take it away!" Then I saw his face. He was literally a pale green color. He tried to stand. He has trouble standing. I tried to help him up and my mom yelled at me for trying to help him because I am disabled. But I knew something was very wrong.

He managed to get up and staggered out the door. Sat in their rental car. Looked like he was passed out. It was all downhill from there.

I don't know how they made it back home to Washington. I can't remember where they were staying at the time. I think perhaps on the military base in the Navy Lodge but they sometimes stayed in New Jersey.

I think it was two days after they got back home that he went into the laundry room. He slipped on a dryer sheet that was on the floor and fell into a laundry basket. A couple of days later he went to the Dr. I was told by my mom that the Dr. said he had banged his pancreas when he slipped and fell. To this day I do not buy that story. I know he was sick prior to that and knowing what I know now about pancreatitis I believe all of that was related.

He also has spherocytosis and that can cause pancreatitis. My parents tend to live in denial about a lot of things and they also get a lot of things wrong. And yet they talk like they are experts so... I have to take everything they say with a grain of salt.

I only know that he was in the hospital for many weeks after that. They let him out at Christmas time but then he had to go back in right after because he was still very sick. He had been put on insulin during that time period. After they stopped the insulin he refused to check his blood sugar or watch what he ate. As you can imagine he was sick all of the time and he often still is. He doesn't take his meds when he should. And he doesn't avoid dairy or fats which he is supposed to.

He did have his gallbladder removed and that was after we moved back here. So it may have been two years after the pancreatitis. I can't remember exactly. There was some reason they had to wait.

My former SIL also had pancreatitis and had her gall bladder removed. In her case the two things came very close together. But again I don't know many of the details because she lives in another state and I don't talk to her often.

Thats a lot of information, but nothing sounds familiar to me Julie..;-(
I'm no pancreatitis-expert, but I do know that there are many more forms than mine.
AFAIK I got mine from over-drinking. I.e.: too much alcohol.
I got diagnosed with diabetes in 1981, I was a case of alcohol-abuse, but nobody told me that it had to do with the diabetes. In hindsight I might have had pancreatitis even then, so much I pain-attacks I had already for some 3 years before the diagnosis of diabetes.

Alcohol-abuse can lead to chronic pancreatitis. Chronic pancreatitis mostly leads to diabetes (and other things, but that aside).
In 1982 my diabetes had gone! I felt better than ever.
Slowly the alcohol-use came creeping in again (I knew nothing about the dangers, nobody told me about the pain-attacks coming from the pancreas, never a link was made!).
I had 6 years of not having any diabetes, the first years I kept measuring my bg's..
Then it started again: not being able to walk, so I took my old bg-meter and (shit) I had a high bg.
So since the end of the 80-ies I started the insulin again.
Still not knowing why I had pain-attacks.
That pancreas-of-mine must have screemed bloody murder at that time!
Docs told: its all between your ears, youre a nervous type etcetc..

Well-at least NOW I have medicins to put weight on my skinny corpus + some energy and good minerals (that I missed all these years long) on my bones..
And: I'm off the alcohol, but not because somebody warned me about pancreatitis, only because I myself had had enough of that being-an-addict-stuff.

Happy to see that since July 2011 Ive gained 5 kg :-)
Maya


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