Re: "Food" for thought




"Budd Cochran" <mr_d150@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:ii1efl$vsd$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Budd Cochran wrote:
"Janet" <boxhill@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Budd Cochran wrote:
No intention to "go against the grain", just an interesting article
that supports my personal results with my moderate carb, moderate
portion, and all-the-activity-I-can-get-in-per-day lifestyle.

Btw, (and this'll really tick them off) my BG average for the last
two weeks is the equivalent of a 5.2 A1c, the two previous weeks:
5.5 No wonder I've dropped another 5 pounds over the last 3 months.

Why on earth would that tick anyone off? I'm happy for you.

It would never occur to me to think that you would be "ticked off"
because I lost weight and achieved good BGs on a lower carb regime
than your body needs.

In my view it isn't a competition. There aren't "sides." But YMMV.


One post you slam the article and, by implication, anyone that follows
anything similar ( like me), and now you're all hugs and tolerance.

I don't know how to get through to you. Criticizing the accuracy of an article that claims that a diet of 361 gms of carb per day is *universally* best for BGs and weight loss is NOT in any way, shape, or form criticizing a *person* who can actually eat that way and maintain their weight and BGs. (Nor does it criticize the person who eats that way and can't maintain their weight and BGs.) The only people I'm criticizing are the authors of the sloppily-written article.

Do you really identify personally with this article? Are you personally so tied up in it that any questioning of the statements therein is a personal attack in your mind? I simply do not understand you.

I recently posted an article I thought some people might find interesting on B vitamins and kidney damage. If someone posts a response that criticizes some aspect of the article it is not an attack on ME.

BTW, Budd, are you telling me that you eat 361 gms of carb every day and maintain an HBA1C of 5.3 without insulin? If so, I'd say you may have cause to think that you have actually succeeded in "reversing" your diabetes. <G> If so, more power to you. According to some of my older friends who have been T2 for years, the standard medical/nutritionist advice they got was to begin by aiming at 45 gms of carb per meal, plus two snack of about 15 gms, adding up to about 165 gms per day. I'd love to eat that much and achieve the level of control with which I feel fairly comfortable, but I can't, right now. If you can, hey, I'm not attacking you for it, I'm envious! Bring on the bread and potatoes!

I probably eat close to twice Chung's "2Lb diet" but not nearly what I did before diagnosis (24 Pepsi colas alone /day, for example). However, it's hard to estimate actual carb intake because all our breads and pastas are homemade with little or no added sugars (as a fact, the wife now makes a true sourdough bread with no yeast or sugar).

Meats are mostly turkey derived ( luncheon, Brats, ground), and veggies are frozen (no added sugars).

That said, if you were to see my supper plate, yes, you would say I wasn't a T-2, but that's my big meal of the day and then we have a snack (often 3/4 gallon of popcorn for me) during a movie after doing the dishes (by hand ... faster / cheaper than a dishwasher), an hour of Scrabble and an hour of reading aloud to each other ( Lee Strobel's "The Case for Faith")

Reversed T-2? I doubt it. If that were true, my Metformin would be bottoming me out (1000mg /B.I.D.).

The point I'm trying to make is that mod-carb posts are not welcome in this group. Nor is anything suggesting that SOME are not as active as they could be. Either or both get responses like this thread has received.

Yet let a low-carb post be made and it's welcomed as "gospel". Never a negative response except if a mod-carber makes the unforgivable error of replying. So much for tolerance and equality.

About taking things personally: why not? Others complain about affronts, even when they're not really being insulted, for various personal reasons in this group, but two groups are not allowed to be affronted. rather, they're to lay down and be whipped raw:


If you want to perceive yourself as a victim, that's your choice. It doesn't mean others are victimizing you.


Fundamental Christians and mod -carbers.

Again, you need a low-carb diet ... that's you. I don't ... that's me.
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C.L. "Budd" Cochran
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