Re: Well controlled t-2, yet neuropathy beginnings?


"Kurt" <kurtwheeling1965@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Jan 9, 2:24 pm, BlueBrooke <bluebro...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 09:42:40 -0800 (PST), Kurt
<kurtwheeling1...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jan 8, 7:55 am, BlueBrooke <bluebro...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Vetted: A process of examination and evaluation; examine carefully;
make a careful and critical examination of

Seems to me every time we test anecdotal information, or research
claims, for that matter, with "test, test, test" WE are doing the
"vetting." While I make no claim to great scientific knowledge or
education, I did learn to read numbers -- and my meter has really
nice, big ones, to make it easier even for dumb ol' me.

Vetted also implies that others can evaluate first hand the
information that is being reviewed. In this newsgroup, that is not
possible. Someone makes a statement about themselves or an anecdotal
claim about what "works" for them as a way to prove their claim and
there is no way for anyone else to verify that claim is actually true.
IOW there is no way to determine if it was just made up to support
their agenda.

Kurt
Is not conducting similar experiments a valid vetting process? If
someone says, "I don't eat baked potatoes because they cause a huge
spike" do we have to actually go to that person's house, feed them a
baked potato and record the numbers? Seems to me, I can eat a baked
potato myself and decide for *myself* whether I can do that or not --
which I can't, by the way.

I don't think anyone here doesn't include the equivalent of the the
"YMMV" caveat when they're discussing what works for *them.* Even if
they don't, it should defnitely be assumed. Especially considering
how many different ways there are to deal with T2.

What I don't understand is --

"Mom, it hurts when I do this!"

"Well, then, don't do that anymore!"

If a newbie -- or a regular, for that matter -- comes in with stories
about how what they're doing is NOT working, why are they not supposed
to try to find something that *does!?*

Breakfast is a good example. They come in saying they have their
breakfast of cereal, milk, toast, fruit -- and their BGs are way too
high! Try a protein breakfast of eggs and/or meat. I recall anyone
who responded back saying, "Hey, that helped! Thanks!"

I just don't understand all the animosity towards the people here who
are trying to share what works for them -- or what doesn't work for
them! They're accused of having an agenda. Okay -- apparently that
agenda is helping people deal with T2.

Your logic is flawed and methinks you are purposelly misrepresenting
what I say. The "animosity" you speak of does not exist, from me
anyway. What I do suspect, is that a few in here have an agenda and
lie about things in order to support that agenda. Since there is no
way of vetting their opinions posted as fact, then it basically goes
unchecked. I believe most of the people who post here write, but since
we are all individuals I highly doubt that what works for one person
is neccesarily right for someone else.

On the other hand, we've go the people who are eating 45-50g of carbs
with every meal because some dietician told them to. It isn't working
-- their BGs are out of control -- but because a dietician told them
that, they're supposed to keep doing it, even if it's not working, and
complications are developing? Seems like there's an agenda here, too.
But it isn't a good one.

Who are these dieticians who force people to eat X amount of carbs?
And why aren't they then also forcing them to get more exercise, lose
weight, and add medication if it is necessary to help control their
diabetes. There is much more to diabetes than just the X number of
carbs someone eats. Are you not aware of that?

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I have seen several dieticians. All have told me, if you follow this diet,
you should lose X amount of pounds per week. Sometimes this happened.
Sometimes it didn't. Never did I see a dietician who said I had to eat
whatever it was.


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