Re: What not to do with insulin!

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On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 20:04:05 +0100,GysdeJongh wrote:

ellerby wrote:

If he was mistaken in his belief that it was you who had said
something, then he was not lying as there was no lie.
A lie is always intentional.

Uh

Sorry Gyse, it was bad sentence construction on my part.
What I intended to convey was that -

*If* he *truthfully* stated what he *believed* to be true,
then there was *no lie*.

The reason being that for someone to tell a *lie* they must know, or at
least suspect, that the information they represent as true is unreliable.

Therefore telling a lie *must* be intentional.


Ok

Certainly if he knew that what he said was false then he was lying.

As long as *you* are sure of his *intent*, then fair enough.

*You* in this case being *one* even though it was also applicable to Julie.

However sure you are, you may be wrong .. which would not make you a
liar.

Uh

ie *If* Julie was sure of the truth of what she was saying,
*then* she also would not have been lying
and so could not be called a liar for what she said.

Ok

Lying is wrong as in evil.

As distinct from wrong as in merely erroneous.

Being mistaken occasionally is just part of being human.
I think there is a vital difference.

Calling someone a liar can damage their reputation.
Damaging someone's reputation unfairly is an unwarranted assault.
Intentionally damaging their reputation unfairly is a malicious assault.

did you discover the Higgs Boson before the LHC, or do you want to start a
new religion ??????

;-)


Short answer - Neither.


Longer answer. ..

Neither as they are both outside of my expertise base and interest.

Why do you ask?


... with the usual provisos - IANAL IMHO YMMV ... ,

.... and always Wes' Guidelines re judging others.

Regards, Lindsay in Oz #
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M, 58, Non diabetic but familiarly involved (T2 Met Ins pen carb?)
So I lurk, don't post often - usually in non medical threads .....
# (Which only *partly* explains the date, spelling, nym and posting styles)
Composed Oz date Thu 6/1 sometime and posted later when back online

"Isn't it embarrassing to quote something you didn't read,
... and then attack what it didn't say?"
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it also depends on what kind of person you are.”
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