Re: Eye Doc results today

Ozlover <this@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: W. Baker <wbaker@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: > Ozlover <this@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: > : trigonometry1972@xxxxxxxxx | <trigonometry1972@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: > : >
: > : > > ? My two sets of glasses/frames were some $2000, all out of pocket, and
: > : > > worth every Euro. Those of SWMBO were even more expensive. My (97-yo)
: > : > > mother's were $1200.
: > : > >
: > : > > [...]
: > : > >
: > : > > --
: > : > > Frank Slootweg
: > : >
: > : > That is still too much. Bifocals aren't that much more costly. Those
: > : > frames better have a lifetime guarantees and make you look ten years
: > : > younger.
: >
: > : Mine are multi-focals, i.e. a continuous change over the height of the
: > : glasses, not a boundary. Then there's special optics for the sides. They
: > : are also self-colouring, so most of the time I don't need sunglasses.
: > : Then there's all kinds of degrees of anti-reflection. Then there's all
: > : kinds of degrees of hardening. Etc., etc..
: >
: > : The *frames* are actually a very small part of the total cost. IIRC,
: > : some 10%.
: >
: > : If all you need are very simple glasses, then count yourself lucky.
: > : But if you need (very) complex glasses, then be glad that they are
: > : available, at a price.
: >
: > : For me, they are a blessing. I can do (nearly) everything with them
: > : and don't need to continuously change glasses for different, and often
: > : continuously changing, situations. Even something as 'simple' as driving
: > : a car needs good vision at a multitude (not just one or two) different
: > : ranges of distance.
: >
: > : --
: > : Frank Slootweg
: >
: > Unfortunaely, I canot benefit form the progressive lenses and have been
: > told to aavoid them. As I have only peripheral vision in my left ey they
: > would be useless there and might well rob me of that vision. My right
: > eye, even after the cataract surgery, which reduced, but did not
: > eliminate my myopia, I cannot have a single glens with both my distance
: > and reading prescrptions on it. I use a bifocal for near and medium
: > vision(like cooking, chopping vegetables, etc) adn use a 2x drugstore
: > glasses for reading. Computers I have to use bare-eyed as none of the
: > assorted corrections work. I peer at the keys and don't see the screen
: > wonderfully, even with a somewhat enlarged print. If I look too closely
: > at what I have written the letters can dance, change shapre or place. I
: > only wish I could get some glasses at whatever the cost, hat would help
: > with all these issues. That, and better typing skills would help
: > enormously:-)

: I am no optician (and don't play one on the net), but what you're
: describing looks :-) very much like my (97-yo) mother's situation.

: As to your left versus your right eye, my mother has very little (some
: 5%) vision in one eye, and of course she has a totally different speced
: glass for that eye.

: I don't see why you should avoid progressive lenses (multi-focals),
: because they're just more flexible than bi-focals. My mother has a
: progressive lens (multi-focal) for her 'good' eye *and* a pair of
: glasses optimized for reading. I.e. with her main glasses she can do
: 'everything', including reading, but if she only reads for some period
: of time, her reading glasses give better vision.

: Anyway, please note that there are opticians and opticians. My
: mother's ophthalmologist asked which optician she had, and when she gave
: his name, he said "He is more qualified to determine the optimum glasses
: for you than I am.". Previously she visited a 'cheap' optician who said
: he couldn't do anything for her. Her good optician, spent one and a half
: hour (and would have spent more if needed) with her, and was able to get
: her vision in her 'good' eye back upto 60%. Now she can again see
: details of people's faces, details of leaves on a plant, etc., etc.. The
: best $1200 she spent for a long time.

: [...]

: --
: Frank Slootweg

I am delighted for your mother. In my left eye, the one that had 3
hemorhages(sp?) I have no fucusing central vision. There is just grey
where the clar fucues vision would be. I do have peripheral vision which
means that with my glasses on I can see the giant E on the chart if I til
my head in the right direction and then only monentarily. With the 2X
reading lense I can sometimes see the next line of the chart for an even
briefer time. There is no correction other than huge magnification that
might help, were both my eyes in that condition. they would have been had
I gotten the AWMD in the right eye as well a few years before I did. Now
they ave treatments, then , they did not.

The difference between my distance and my reding is so large(one needing
myopic correction and the other needing farsighted correction) that no
lens can encompass it. The middle vision correction of the bifocal that i
have only serves to help with cooking and ofte, I do better without
glasses at all. My disance corretion is betwen 20/30 and 20/40 with my
glasses one, but the distortions from havign a macula that is not flat
make that not the same as someone with a normal mcula would have. If I
look at an amstir gridI have waves in the +/+ quadrant of the graphin a
line at a steep angle, over 1,up 2. No lens can correct this and a
progressive lens woudl only exacerbate thisk kind of thing.

I appreciate your thought in making the suggestions, but, unfortunately,
my condition won't permit me to use those lenses. I am happy that I see
as well as I do and pray it continues with tratment. I read English well,
but not other languages, as my brain does a great deal of the reading for
me(scientific terminology is nearly impossible) and when reading other
languages in which I do not think, means reding like a child, letter by
letter and the close looking makes the letters dance and change shape.

I can walk about the dity seeing just fine, although I don't see clearly
at a distance, again guessing and familiarity help a gret deal. It really
is remakrable what he brai can do to help with this. I only worry what
will happen to my vision should I get "soft in the head" down the road.

I am sure that the opticians in the Netherlands are supurb, after all
much of the early work in optics and lenses were done there:-) Hugyens
was, in many ways , the first master.

Wendy
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