Re: fat and insulin resistance


"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:8ebob2Fu0hU1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


We also don't know just how much the individuals in here (and elsewhere who "can't" tolerate x amount of carbs) actually move. I cited the experience of my ex who did very well on a diet close to the ADA style recommendations of the day because he was doing moderate manual labour.

1. Why the quote marks around "can't"?

2. Not everybody has the option of earning their living at a job requiring physical exertion. People who make their living at work which is sedentary can incorporate some exercise into their lives, but not as much as people whose work requires physical exertion. Despite this, millions of people work at sedentary jobs and maybe hit the gym twice a week but do not have diabetes.

3. All that aside, I did not see anything in Randy's posts to the effect that "A 40% carbohydrate diet is good for diabetics whose work requires physical exertion" or "A 40% carbohydrate diet is good for diabetics who exercise at least x hours per day", rather the study results are stated as blanket recommendations. If the study results are valid for "diabetics" in general, then how much people "actually move" is irrelevant.

Moving forward a considerable amount of years - during which time he has been very slack diet-wise to say the least... This morning he popped in for breakfast and to take our 16 yr old to school. I made him 1 sausage, some bacon and an egg, coffee with sweetener. Nothing else as he had left his insulin at home, duh! Post meal test - 11.4! He said oh, if I had my insulin here (a mix of all things) I would be shooting x (large number) of insulin right now.

So I said ok, on your pony! Take a brisk walk around the block and don't come back for 10 minutes ;) It dropped to 7.2, still too high in my but a very significant drop - and without the insulin. It didn't take all that much movement to show a vast improvement.

That's nice for him. For me, 15 minutes of vigorous exercise drops me maybe 10 points (the way we measure in the US, i.e. from 130 to 120), a 25-minute walk is good for about 2 points -- far less than the drop of about a third after a 10 minute walk that your ex experienced.

He has a new lot of scripts for 2 separate insulins which he won't be buying until next week - due to a financial problem at the moment. Presumably Lantus and Actrapid as he can't remember what and that's pretty much the norm here now. Will be interesting to see what the numbers are like then. Also due to the financial problem I will be making an extra evening meal when I make my shift working son's meal so that will be interesting to observe also.

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