Re: Character Assassination 101
- From: "W. Baker" <wbaker@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 16:21:38 +0000 (UTC)
Kurt <kurtwheeling1965@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: On Apr 30, 1:18?pm, Paul L <p...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: > On 4/30/2010 10:58 AM, sometimers wrote:
: > > "Paul L"<p...@xxxxxxxxxxx> ?wrote in message
: > >news:hrelas$tr$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > >> On 4/27/2010 8:39 PM, sometimers wrote:
: > >>> It is kind of amusing to read their stuff that they believe places them
: > >>> with understanding better than the medical professionals who have
: > >>> dedicated their lives to promoting the best possible health.
: > >> My diagnosing doctor told me "we are not worried about any spikes
: > >> below 240."
: > >> I found people here that knew better.
: > >> Fact.
: > >> Paul
: > > Sorry for your misfortune. What I said stands. Apparently your doctor
: > > didn't "dedicate his life to promoting the best possible health." ?There
: > > are those who do.
: > He was a young doctor and now knows better.
: > I'm curious what percentage of doctors you would guess meet your
: > criteria. ? I would suggest that we can agree that it is not
: > all doctors. ?As in all business transactions, buyer beware is a good
: > approach for a patient to take. ?A portion of my being "aware" is
: > the good information I've gotten from this group.
: I can agree with the above and it is impossible to guess at what
: percentage of doctors meet Sometimers criteria. IMO, it's going to be
: a majority, but you'd never know it by what is written in here. One
: poster said he was told a bg of 500 was just fine. Yeah, right.
: > I think we all agree that "ask your doctor" is decent advice.
: For a few in here it's more like "tell your doctor" or "ignore your
: > What differentiates two main factions of this group is what we/they
: > *do* with the advice. ?For some it is an end all and for others it
: > is more a starting point.
: Nice spin job, Paul, and not uncommon from you and a few others in
: this newsgroup. You remind me of FOX News that proclaims they are fair
: and balanced and the others are not.
: Let me put a more realistic spin on what differentiates the two main
: factions (one side, your side, being the overwhelming dominant
: faction) concept in this newsgroup about doctors and their advice:
: For one side it is amateur's know more than doctors and you don't need
: them if you listen to us in a.s.d.. For others it's to advise people
: to work "with" their doctor, especially one who specializes in
: diabetes, to discover what treatment is best for their personal needs.
: There is much good information being shared in here by the majority of
: good honest people. However, there are those few who love to play
: doctor and push their agenda, doing all they can to discredit the
: professional healthcare community who do not buy into their heavy
: handed and often times lunatic fringe theories.
I think that most people who are satified with their MDs advice, etc would
not bother o ome here unless they were, lke some of us here, information
nuts or those with more intellectual interests in our conditions. Many
newbies seem to first arrive because of disatisfction with the avice or
lacck of advice they have been given by their medical doctor or team.
this does result in a skewed group of people who hve found generalist
physicins with not a get deal of information about diabetes or who don't
believe diabetics will really control the disease, etc. As result there
is a great deal of fear in trustin medical"professionals." Much of the
pratical advice here, based on actual experience is extremely valuable and
has enabled many(including me) to gai good to excellent control over
In my case, what drove me here was having two endos in rapid succession,
one(the first) who told be that 130 as an fbg was what I should aim for
and the second who wanted me at below 110 for the same reading. In
addition, the advice on carb intake given me by my diatician didn't seem t
be working in getting me to the desired bg levels. iam, by the way, still
with that second endo who is quite amazed by my excellent control and
Interestingly enough, as many of you know I am under considerable stress
currently with my husband's health issues and my endo has b een advicing
me ways to reduce stree in other areas and in trying to help me manage my
gut to prevent gastric issues that could get nasty. He suggested that I
relax my diabetes standards for a few weeks, as, with my general excellent
control, it would not harm me, as he is sure I would return to my good
pattern once the stress eased. what I have found, however, is that keeing
my bgs in line(with a few weird excursions following strange meals)
keeps me happier and less stressed that either a bad reding or not knowing
(by not testing). I guess the asd anality has become a prt of me that is
uncomfortable o abandon. I expect a slightly higher A1c at my next test,
possibly over 6, but not anything crazy.
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