Re: High-fat diet increased LDL-cholesterol

sometimers <sometimers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 4/23/2010 11:22 AM, Chris Malcolm wrote:
sometimers<sometimers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 4/23/2010 9:01 AM, Susan wrote:
Nicky wrote:

Boy, I hate studies that STOP at 6 weeks on a low carb diet.

Yeah even Ornish of the uber low fat diet hastened to explain that LDL
and TC would rise in the early stages of his diet as lipids enter the
bloodstream for disposal from the body.

The other thing is, there's nothing wrong with high LDL, unless you have
a drug to sell.

Susan

I've been reading this unadulterated BS from you long enough.

The American Heart Association says otherwise:

"Low-density lipoprotein is the major cholesterol carrier in
the blood. If too much LDL cholesterol circulates in the blood,
it can slowly build up in the walls of the arteries feeding
the heart and brain. Together with other substances it can
form plaque, a thick, hard deposit that can clog those
arteries. This condition is known as atherosclerosis. A clot
(thrombus) that forms near this plaque can block the blood
flow to part of the heart muscle and cause a heart attack.
If a clot blocks the blood flow to part of the brain, a
stroke results. A high level of LDL cholesterol (160 mg/dL
and above) reflects an increased risk of heart disease. If
you have heart disease, your LDL cholesterol should be less
than 100 mg/dL and your doctor may even set your goal to be
less than 70 mg/dL. That's why LDL cholesterol is called
"bad" cholesterol. Lower levels of LDL cholesterol reflect
a lower risk of heart disease."

http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4488

Well, it might be unadulterated bullsight. Or it might be an outdated
overgeneralisation which used to look highly plausible but which
later research has called into question, and which will in the usual
ponderous fashion of institional consensus be revised sooner or later.

Are you willing to take a bet that won't happen? :-)

Yes. Are you?

I already have. If that doesn't happen then by ignoring their advice
I'm running a higher than necessary risk of having another heart
attack. So I'm betting that their current advice is a properly
conservative outdated overgeneralision, properly conservative for an
insitution responsible for national consensus guidelines in a highly
litigious nation with very large national healthcare budgets at stake.

I expect the acceptance of less Procrustean epidemiological methods,
probably driven by genomics empire builders, to facilitate a revision
in a few to several years time.

--
Chris Malcolm
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