Re: Health Insurance
- From: Billy <wildbilly@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:11:13 -0700
In article <82faghFhp1U3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ray <ray@xxxxxxxxxx>
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:53:09 -0700, Kurt wrote:
On Apr 11, 4:23?pm, "Anon" <anonnos...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Janet" <boxh...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
"Janet" <boxh...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
Does anyone know whether diabetes is commonly used to deny
coverage? I'm not talking about switching from one plan to another,
I'm talking about trying to buy coverage as an uninsured person
with a pre-existing condition.
In 2014 health care insurance companies will be required to insure
everyone regardless of pre-existing conditions. However, ObamaCare
does not prevent them from charging according to the risk, so the
price will be the same or higher than today. If you are financially
unable to afford private insurance, in 2014 you could be insured by
the health care exchanges formed by your state. These exchanges are
to be set up with several different levels of coverage. The higher
levels will cost more of course. It is assumed that those unable to
pay for the higher levels will only be insured at the lower levels,
the lower levels will not include outpatient care, only hospital
So the message will still be "just die as quickly and cheaply as
possible and get out of our way."
That's the change ObamaCare makes at a cost of over $1 trillion. I
didn't vote for him/it.
It's comments like these that expose Republicans as the party of no,
which has lately become the party of hate. Not sure if it is all just
because they are so desperate to try and get back to even a shadow of
their former self in the political arena, or they truly are all drinking
the kool-aid that FOX news has been serving for a long long time.
Calling Obama "It" or "The Anointed One" and taking nasty shots at him
which range from calling him a socialist to questioning his religion and
citizenship is doing more to divide this country than at any time in our
history. There are a lot of lies out there and it is fueling the goobers
who turn that political hate talk into violent acts.
I believe what he was saying is that he did not vote for him (obama) or
it (obamacare). Neither did I.
You don't have to embrace Obama as your President, but you should at
least acknowledge how much good he has done in one year which pretty
much dwarfs what the last administration did in eight years. His
accomplishments are many, not the least of which is achieving a
foundation for a national healthcare program that should have been
enacted many years ago. I notice that Anon, like most Republicans,
posted the lie that the healthcare plan would cost a trillion. Well, no
it doesn't cost that much and the CBO found that it would CUT the
deficit by $130 billion and reduce the deficit by $1.2 trillion in the
second decade of the plan's implementation. Do you remember what the
stock market was like when he came into office? It bottomed out at under
6000. Friday it closed at about 11,000. Now let's turn to world issues
and his efforts to shore up our position in the Mid-East by pulling out
of Iraq (where we never should have been) and focus on Afghanistan where
we should have been in the first place. He is now currently engaged in
addressing the ever fragile nuclear arms issue by calling for a
scaleback and more regulation from ALL countries. This was something the
God of the Republican Party Ronald Reagan also fought for, but now that
Obama is doing it all the Republicans can do is, yet again, criticize
Back during the campaign, I was a very militant Hillary supporter. I
truly thought she would make the better President. We didn't get to see
what kind of job she would have done, but I am surprised and delighted
with President Obama and what he has done in the short time he has been
in office. A lot of great things, despite the Republicans trying to put
up roadblocks in front of everything he tries to do. I'm surprised FOX
News didn't decry the wanton and unchecked spending for all those eggs
used in this year's White House lawn Easter egg roll. "He's out of
control...and in cahoots with the Easter Bunny, a known socialist who
engages in giving things to people who don't even pay taxes!!!!!"
Typical liberal rant. He basically has done nothing except accept a prize
on the basis of what he may (but probably won't) do in the future. He has
thrown three trillion dollars down the rathole, unemployment is still
near 20% and the economy still sucks - but we do have socialized medicine
coming on board in four more years.
I did not know that Aetna, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, and Country Wide
were socialist companies. How do these things get by me? Now explain to
me why we pay twice as much as other countries to get the same benefits.
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
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