Re: Medical name for liver dump?

Sleepyman <dont@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:47:09 -0700 (PDT), Kurt <kurtwheeling1965@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



: >> Please show me a direct causal link between sedentary lifestyle and obesity, to diabetes,
: >
: >Enjoy.
: >
: >http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=obesity%2C+sedentary%2C+diabetes&btnG=Google+Search
: >
: >or
: >
: >http://tinyurl.com/mbvwro
: >
: >>with no
: >> other factors in play.

: You can't just break a statement in half, and post a link to information on the half
: you agree with. As I read some of the google results that your link led do, I saw nothing
: proclaiming that a sedentary lifestyle and/or obesity on their own, cause diabetes.
: >
: >Everything has "other factors" in play. Obesity and a sedentary
: >lifestyle are undeniable major contributing factors.

: Agreed 100 percent.
: >
: >> If a person is pre disposed to diabetes AND pursues a sedentary lifestyle and/or
: >> is obese, then they are more likely to become diabetic.
: >
: >It would be interesting, and from what I've read they are working on
: >it (not just diabetes but other diseases as well), to be able to
: >determine who is pre-disposed. It might help to change the lifestyle
: >of some people but given the blatant non compliance from most people
: >when it comes to following healthcare professional's advice, I fear it
: >would be a small decrease.

: It certainly would be good to be able to identify those predisposed and those who are not. I have
: T1s, and T2s on both sides of my extended family. Of my generation, so far, I have one first cousin
: who is a T1, and I am a T2. Considering I have approx. 40 first cousins (and that is a conservative
: estimate), it is almost like diabetes is skipping my generation, as it has been known to do.
: >
: >> Another reason for the diabetes "epidemic" is the diagnostic standards have
: >> changed enough (thank goodness) for many people who are in fact diabetic, to be DX'd as so.
: >
: >True, they have change the parameters and tightened the definitions.

: And that is a good thing, but as you said, the compliance record of diabetics and those with other
: diseases, is poor. I still try to go by the maxim that if even one life is saved, it is worth the
: effort.

: >> It wasn't too long ago that these people were told everything was fine and no changes in
: >> lifestyle were necessary.
: >
: >There is a greater push to educate, but is the message getting
: >through? Like smoking, even when people are aware of the dangers they
: >continue to do so. Not sure what the answer is...I mean how can you
: >motivate people other than trying to get the word out about the health
: >risks as much as possible.
: >
: I'm afraid that the message isn't getting out as well as it should be. I think peer or familial
: pressure is the best motivator.


: Sleepy

I wonder if the enormous efort to shrink the number of smokers has
contributed to the obesity epidemic. I recall that I gained quite a bit
of weight when I quit smoking some 37 years ago. It is a common
occurrance. I don't have any yen to smoke adn I eat well fordiabetic
numbers, but I can't seem to get the weight down after the big drop of
about 65 pounds 23 years ago.

.

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