Re: Medical name for liver dump?

On Aug 21, 10:00�pm, Sleepyman <d...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:47:09 -0700 (PDT), Kurt <kurtwheeling1...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Please show me a direct causal link between sedentary lifestyle and obesity, to diabetes,

Enjoy.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=obesity%...

or

http://tinyurl.com/mbvwro

with no
other factors in play.

You can't just break a statement in half, and post a link to information on the half
you agree with. As I read some of the google results that your link led do, I saw nothing
proclaiming that a sedentary lifestyle and/or obesity on their own, cause diabetes.



Everything has "other factors" in play. Obesity and a sedentary
lifestyle are undeniable major contributing factors.

Agreed 100 percent.



If a person is pre disposed to diabetes AND pursues a sedentary lifestyle and/or
is obese, then they are more likely to become diabetic.

It would be interesting, and from what I've read they are working on
it (not just diabetes but other diseases as well), to be able to
determine who is pre-disposed. It might help to change the lifestyle
of some people but given the blatant non compliance from most people
when it comes to following healthcare professional's advice, I fear it
would be a small decrease.

It certainly would be good to be able to identify those predisposed and those who are not. I have
T1s, and T2s on both sides of my extended family. �Of my generation, so far, I have one first cousin
who is a T1, and I am a T2. Considering I have approx. 40 first cousins (and that is a conservative
estimate), it is almost like diabetes is skipping my generation, as it has been known to do.



Another reason for the diabetes "epidemic" is the diagnostic standards have
changed enough (thank goodness) for many people who are in fact diabetic, to be DX'd as so.

True, they have change the parameters and tightened the definitions.

And that is a good thing, but as you said, the compliance record of diabetics and those with other
diseases, is poor. I still try to go by the maxim that if even one life is saved, it is worth the
effort.

It wasn't too long ago that these people were told everything was fine and no changes in
lifestyle were necessary.

There is a greater push to educate, but is the message getting
through? Like smoking, even when people are aware of the dangers they
continue to do so. Not sure what the answer is...I mean how can you
motivate people other than trying to get the word out about the health
risks as much as possible.

I'm afraid that the message isn't getting out as well as it should be. I think peer or familial
pressure is the best motivator.

Hi Sleeoyman,

Nothing more to add, just wanted to thank you for a good exchange of
ideas and opinions.

Best of health to you,
Kurt
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