Re: Newly Diagnosed (Self) Type II - Need Advice.
- From: "pico" <picoblvd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 03:48:35 -0400
** To Sam, you need to munge your email address because the real one is
showing and it will help prevent those who might be a tad bit looney
you or your email being harvested and sold
First, see a doctor ASAP preferably an Endo that specializes in diabetes.
I think he made that very clear in his first post it's what he was going to
Yet, everyone keeps telling the poor guy.
Go back to the archives. It's been proven that it CAN be harmful to drop
If I were in your shoes, knowing what I know today, I would immediately go
on the Atkins induction phase diet or a similarly very low carb diet. This
would benefit 2 ways, first it would get your BG down, probably within the
normal range; second it would result in weight loss.
your glucose to quickly when
you're in Glucotoxicity (google for more info). That in-and-of itself is a
dangerous condition. It's going to
take time to get the glucose back down into a steady normal setting.
Exercise and definately carb counting is going to be your best line of
defense until you can get theyself
to a doctor that knows something about DM. While I'm not a doctor your
glucose ranges are pretty
indicative of a uncontrolled T2 diabetic. Nothing indicates being a T1 in
what you have said. It is becoming
more common for doctors to put new diagnosed T2's directly on Insulin to
help them reduce their glucose
easier and more quickly. If you are given Insulin right off, it's not a
death sentence at all. After you gain
control for a T2, you often can stop the insulin, but more find it easier to
control their bg's with it than without.
Honestly I can say it doesn't hurt as much as a finger stick. There are a
couple of posters that claim injecting
hurts like the devil, I have to say, they aren't the typical diabetic by
what they have stated in past posts. It can
take time for oral medications to start to work. If a T2, you also most
likely would be prescribed Metformin.
That has some pretty rancid side effects. :~/ you might google that while
you're waiting. It's actually a very good
diabetic medication overall. Just gives many the runs and horrible upset
Last suggestion, I recommend you get this book. It has a wealth of
information contained within. While the
title is "Using Insulin" by John Walsh, he is a diabetic himself and a CDE
(Certified Diabetic Educator) iirc,
he works/worked at the Joslin Center. If you google the title many hits
come up. I've recently seen it advertised
on eBay for iirc $1.99 and free shipping. If you don't have insurance, that
is where many get their strips because
you can use up to 10 strips a day right after diagnoses, until you get back
into the groove of eating a new way.
HTH and if you have any questions, feel free to ask away.
pico blvd - where the sun was mighty bright today.
"sam king" <suresh.king99@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
So for a couple of months I've had very noticeable increase in
thirst/urination. Finally faced the music and researched -- saw that it
was the hallmark of Diabetes and ran to pharmacy and bought Blood Pressure
and Blood Sugar testing stuff.
To my dismay, first test (2 hours after lunch) came in at 245..and it's
got mostly worse since then.
8am : 253
9:20am : 194 20 minutes after one cup of coffee (1
10:00am : 277 Second cup of coffee (1 sugar) <<--- where
did this spike come from?
4:45pm : 204 (no lunch, too scared!)
6:30pm : 208 (1 hr after 4 turkey slices -- too hungry!)
7:50pm : 215 (30 minutes after one glass of champagne --
11:15pm : 258 (1 hour After dinner -- chicken pot pie)
12:15pm : 327 (2 hours after dinner) (<---ouich!)
9am : 253 (Before any food/drink) (ouich)
11:00am : 295 (30 mins after one cup of coffee) (don't
3:20 pm : 318 (1 hr after a cheese, turkey and bacon wrap and
a DD coffee)
4:30 pm : 315 (2h)
5:30 pm : 284 (3h later)
6:30 pm : 239 (4h later) After some light exercise (assembling
Since I've been obsessing and depressing about all this, the
urination/drinking binges seem to have abated. Blood Pressure is a bit
high too (130/95)...
Anyway, it's clear to me I have type II, I'm tracking down a doctor -- but
in the meantime, can someone advise how I get my blood sugar levels down -
and more stable? I'm not eating much, and not so many carbs..but the
effective baseline number seems to be mid 200's and then postprandial
spikes seem to linger...
I've read everything I can get my hands on -- but it all seems to be
focused on getting controlling post meal spikes...my issue is the
baseline!!! Anyway -- before my head spins off my shoulders, I'd really
appreciate honest feedback/ideas/observations. Given the readings, I guess
its pretty bad.
What else -- well, I'm mid-forties. 5'10, 192lbs (so a little overweight -
BMI = 27.5)
Thanks so much in advance...
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