Re: OT: conversations about life

Chris Malcolm <cam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: sanforized <sanforized@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
: > Peppermint Patootie wrote:
: >> In article <phfdr4h6eglltt5ipcpieaqbhml1a1p6n1@xxxxxxx>,
: >> Trinkwasser <spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: >>
: >>> On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:31:12 -0500, Peppermint Patootie
: >>> <Peppermint_Patootie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: >>>
: >>>> In article <nr78r4t20bglp624u1e44mh5jc2k4ucpvo@xxxxxxx>,
: >>>> Trinkwasser <spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

: >>>>> Curiously a combination of Good Ol' American boys, Jewish bankers,
: >>>>> British and yes even Scots have done to the world what all the Islamic
: >>>>> Tourists never managed

: >>>> You're getting really close to racism here. Better watch your step.

: >>> No you're missing the point, the people who are supposed to be *on our
: >>> side* have done far more harm to the world than their "enemies"

: >> It's "Jewish bankers" to which I'm objecting.
: >>
: >> PP

: > I don't know of any formal studies that developed
: > statistics one way or another on whether bakers
: > are predominantly Jews or not.

: Not predominantly, but there are good historical reasons why there are
: more than would be expected on the basis of population percentages,
: and why so many of the great international banking families are
: Jewish.

: In some of the countries in which Jews settled as an immigrant
: population they, simply as immigrants, were not permitted the full
: range of business activities possible to locals. That restricted range
: included banking. They also settled in some countries where usury was
: forbidden by the local religion, but not by Judaism, so they were able
: to do very well in providing banking services. Thus a tradition and
: culture of financial skills developed in Jewish communities.

: --
: Chris Malcolm


Actually, in many countries Jews were forbidden to own land and were often
driven out from place to plce. They neded a portable profession and
financial business and hendlng gold and gems another. In addidion,
althoug ews were forbidden to charge interest to other Jews, they were not
so foridden to non-Jews, hance they could sere as bankers. Insome
countries, ie Poland the local noble sand kings used them as tax
collectors, periodically taking all the money and not paying any fees to
these collectors. Again, they couldn't own land. Later, since Jews were
scattered all accross Europe, many havning been forced out while some
managed to remain, familes were spread widely ad in comuniation by bad
mail services and personal messages sent through trader in a way that
most ther people were not. This enable d them to handle finacial paper .
This, of course, was not all Jews, as most were very poor tailors, small
shopkeepers, cdraymen,( if they could afford a horse) etc. Think of Tevya
and his family in Fiddler on the Roof. These were the people that came to
the US during the latter part of the 19th and early partof the 20th
Century an d worked in the sweatshops of the lower East Side in NYC.
Theri children were able to take advantage of the free school system and
city colleges to improve themselves over time. this is the story of most
of my family, none of whom are in finance or banking, but have suceeded
in various wasy. My own kids are not big money makers, one a computer
programmer and the other a college profession in biology(who just got
tenure!!!!!!!). My Grandmother was a sewing macine operator making
shirtwaists(blouses), her sons were a lawyer and a college professor,
educated at City College in NYC with my father working nights teaching and
coaching basketball while attending Columbia Law Achool on partial
scolarship and my uncle teaching at city College wihile getting his PhD
at Columbia. No bakners there:-)

Enough said and enoug history both public and family.

Wendy


.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: OT: conversations about life
    ... :> are predominantly Jews or not. ... and why so many of the great international banking families are ... They also settled in some countries where usury was ... My Grandmother was a sewing macine operator making shirtwaists, her sons were a lawyer and a college professor, educated at City College in NYC with my father working nights teaching and coaching basketball while attending Columbia Law Achool on partial scolarship and my uncle teaching at city College wihile getting his PhD at Columbia. ...
    (alt.support.diabetes)
  • Re: OT: conversations about life
    ... Trinkwasser wrote: ... and why so many of the great international banking families are ... In some of the countries in which Jews settled as an immigrant ...
    (alt.support.diabetes)
  • Jews History
    ... improves all countries in which it resides. ... But do the Jews really ... Of significance in Jewish history is how important the Rothschilds -- ... debt, or, what America owes the Federal Reserve Corporation. ...
    (alt.politics)
  • Re: OT Is anyone really surprised?
    ... For one thing the majority of Jews didn't have papers. ... had no idea what countries they were from and most of them lied about it ... Israel could never had a Christian Foreign Minister, ...
    (rec.bicycles.racing)
  • Re: Dalai Lama - Saga of US Sponsored Freak Show Since 1959 Continues.
    ... countries and kept in squalid refugee camps so they could fool ... British and the UN. ... Zionist stole the land from the Palestinians under the nose of the the ... The UN was to divide up the land of Palestine between the Jews and the ...
    (rec.martial-arts)