Re: Intensive glucose control in patients with poorly controlled type ?2 diabetes had no significant effect




"Peter C" <peter.corbally@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On 21 Dec, 15:21, "W. Baker" <wba...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Peter C <peter.corba...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jennifer is not giving a total program, including exercise and medication.
It shows you how to find out what YOU can eat when so you can then
continue to eat that way and your numbers will be in order. Everyone will
be on different(or no) meds or exercise at the time they start Jennifer's
program. Knowing what to eat and when is, in many ways , the most
mystifying aspect of diabetes. People often get dietary advice that does
not work for them and their number continue high even with meds and
exercise. This program tells you how to find the dietary program that
works for YOU. What more do you want? doctors control the meds and, if
you are eating most eficiently to control your bgs then the doctor can
adjust your meds to the least necessary to keep you in control. That's
what she is doing and she does it well, helping man diabetics achieve
control.

Correct, Wendy. But try telling that to the folks who believe that
Jennifer's Advice is anti-medication.

Very odd. I've never heard anyone on ASD say they were anti-medication.
However, it is often pointed out, because it is true, that if one avoids an
abundance of starchy foods then medications may be reduced or in some cases
eliminated. There are some who embrace the low spike diet whole-heartedly
and it works for them, myself included. No meds. For me, this is the best
answer. There are others though who enjoy having more carbs in their diet
than I do and take medications in order to not have such a restrictive diet.
In any case, the point that is made repeatedly, is doing what it takes to
achieve normal numbers.

People here on ASD have taken issue with the conclusions that many
researchers drew from the ACCORD studies which was that T2s should not
strive for normal numbers, because although study participants had fewer
heart attacks, those that did have them had a higher chance of the heart
attacks being fatal. One must ask the obvious question: is it truly the
lower BG numbers that contributed to the higher fatality rate or was it
perhaps cross-reactions between the many different meds the participants
were taking to lower the numbers.
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Best regards,
Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise
BMI 21.5


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