Re: Intensive glucose control in patients with poorly controlled type 2 diabetes had no significant effect

On 21 Dec, 05:54, Alan S <loralgtweightandca...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:53:14 -0800 (PST), Peter C

Please read this section twice:

"Then for the next few days, try to curb your carbs.
Eliminate breads, cereals, rice, beans, any wheat products,
potato, corn, fruit... get all your carbs from veggies. Test
at the same schedule above."

That is the specific "tactical" advice. Nowhere in her
advice are medications suggested in any way.

No it isn't "specific "tactical" advice" about how to handle diabetes
long term.
Its a short term experiment to show you what foodstuffs you are
battling with.
She doesn't mention medication but because, as I have been pointing
out to you, she doesn't mention ANY tactics for dealing with the
results of what her experiment shows. She certainly does not advocate
low carbing.
And of course she nowhere even mentions exercise or where it fits into
diabetic regimes.
You should re-read this bit here again - there is no single plan,
"right" way, resulting from her advice.

Unfortunately, the answer is pretty confusing. What
confounds us all is the fact that different diabetics can
get great results on wildly different food plans.  Some of
us here achieve great blood glucose control eating a high
complex carbohydrate diet. Others find that anything over 75
- 100g of carbs a day is too much.  Still others are
somewhere in between.

for us.  You can use our experiences as jumping off points,
but eventually you'll work up a successful plan that is
yours alone.

Again - your interpretation, the lessons you draw from Jennifer's
advice are no better than anybody eles's.

The closer we get to non-diabetic numbers, the greater
chance we have of avoiding horrible complications.  The key
here is AIM... I know that everyone is at a different point
in their disease... and it is progressive. But, if we aim
for the best numbers and do our best, we give ourselves the
best shot at heath we've got. That's all we can do.

That's the standard stance of the medical profession, in fact of the
World and his dog, and has been since testing of any kind and meters
were invented.


You'll read about a lot of different ways people use to
control their diabetes... Many are diametrically opposed.
After awhile you'll learn that there is no one size fits all
around here.  Take some time to experiment and you'll soon
discover the plan that works for you.

Again the YMMV - there is no "right" path or interpretation of
Jennifer's Advice.
Once you have done her experiment and found out what foods cause
problems to you, the path you choose, the balance of diet/meds and
exercise you adopt is up to you as a matter of choice. Some choose low
carbing as result of Jeniifer, some choose "low spike", some choose a
medication route ( walking up through the quantity and quality of meds
until they have bgs under control on whatever diet they like ). Medics
would obviously go down the medication route as a result of knowing
what Jennifer shows ( in fact that is what they have done for last 90
years ).
Jennifer's Advice demonstrates an important fact to T2s ( as I said it
earlier "empowers" them ) and she suggests a strategy, keeping bgs in
range, but the Advice does not suggest any tactics on that. What you
do a to achieve a satisfactory balance of diet,meds and exercise is up
to the individual.

.

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