Re: Update on My Situtation




"Evelyn" <evelyn.ruut@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:23:03 -0700, "Michelle C"
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"Susan" <nevermind@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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MI wrote:

Well that will certainly help make several more groups of bacteria
resistant! That's how we got in this mess in the first place.
Indiscriminate
use of antibiotics when they weren't called for. E.g. Giving them for
viral
infections.



Well, yeah, it's a bad idea, but no.

80% of the antiobiotics manufactured in the U.S. are dumped into
agricultural feed and sprayed onto produce, too. I read a NY Times
article back in the mid 80s that predicted that if such use continued,
superbugs would emerge to render our antibiotics useless.

I'm not a disinterested party; my mother died of MRSA.

Susan

Actually, both are true. For the "community acquired" infection, the
method
of cultivating antibiotic resistance is no doubt through agricultural
feed
etc. However, in an institutionalized setting, immunocompromised
patients
can create their own version of antibiotic resistance which is
communicable.
I cultured methicillin resistant staph (which could be treated only with
vancomycin) AND vancomycin resistant enterococcus from the same
patient--an
elderly uncontrolled diabetic nursing home patient with chronic
infections.
For those of us in the micro dept, we were certain had she lived it
would
only be a matter of time before we cultured vancomycin resistant staph
from
her--a bug susceptible to no antibiotics we had at the time (about 10
years
ago). Frankly, I found the situation a bit terrifying. She passed away
before that happened. At the time, I had hoped she was cremated.

Yes I suspect it wasn't understood then as it is now that resistance
can be transferred between bacteria species.

Trouble is they've gone from one extreme to the other. I don't know if
they still use terramycin in animal feed but there are certainly cases
around here where they have put off using antibiotic treatment until
after considerable damage has been done. Trying to avoid one problem
by causing another. :(

I have no problem with antibiotics being used on sick animals, but to
give antibiotics indiscriminately to healthy animals is a recipe for
disaster.
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Best regards,
Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise
BMI 21.5



If you have ever read "The Omnivores Dilemma" you will find out why.
They force all our food animals to live on Corn. Corn is not their
natural diet in most cases, and in ALL cases, not their natural only food.
Corn creates digestive imbalances in their gut, making horrible super bugs
like E-Coli grow, and making the animals sickly.

It is the scariest book I have read in a long time.


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Best Regards,
Evelyn

(Our) enemies are not man. They are intolerance, fanaticism, dictatorship,
cupidity, hatred and discrimination, which lie within the heart of
man." -- Thich Nhat Hanh

Sounds like a very interesting book, Evelyn. Yes, feedlots are the worst.
We used to raise our cattle. Corn was NOT part of the diet, and neither
were antibiotics or growth hormone. They were healthy animals.
--
Best regards,
Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise
BMI 21.5


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